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debugger
04-05-2014, 05:53 AM
hello guys, i wanted to ask if this build will work on 1.0.

www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=411101100100010019111000010100011061011100 010001011


Light Set + 2hand Staff + Mace/Axe with healing power + Shield

Intellect/Endurance

Its a build for CP party, where will be one direct healer + range DPS, Im going here as a DPS + a little support healer.


Or

this build with simillar build stat concept as previous.

www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=411101100100010119111000010100011170110010 011100000

Voom
04-05-2014, 06:55 AM
I've looked at that build in the calculator before too so interest to see what veterans think.

VMBarbosa
04-05-2014, 02:17 PM
I'd definitely go with your first build in terms of damage plus having self heals is one of the best things in game.

Sekkusu
04-05-2014, 02:49 PM
There's a lack of synergy between the trees for both builds. The first one is only good in PVE but you'll pull a lot of aggro when raiding. The best use for it is just aoe farming. In term of PVP, the trees don't synergize very much if at all. You're very bad vs Archers and Melees since you don't have any mobility or any definite self defense mechanic. You're better off with Magic/Conjury/Devotion since Conjury will allow you to cast the spells from Magic and Devotion and give you better self defense than Necromancy.

The second build is the same. The trees don't synergy very well, but if you change Finesse to Will then the build will turn into an Apostle which is a very good build with a lot of versatility. Finesse is made for assassin classes, it offers poor escape mechanics in both Backflip or Shadowstep. It also doesn't help Devotion in anyway.

Voom
04-06-2014, 07:21 AM
Part of the problem I've encountered with theorycrafting so far is that most of the things that look really good on paper don't translate well to the actual game. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how things feel in the "real game" world before we can properly theorycraft.

Sekkusu
04-06-2014, 07:33 AM
Part of the problem I've encountered with theorycrafting so far is that most of the things that look really good on paper don't translate well to the actual game. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how things feel in the "real game" world before we can properly theorycraft.

I'm somewhat past the theorycrafting stage. I've played all trees to lvl 50. I have multiple 50s and 40s. Most if not all the things I've mentioned is from experience and not from theory crafting.

Legion
04-06-2014, 07:38 AM
hello guys, i wanted to ask if this build will work on 1.0.

www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=411101100100010019111000010100011061011100 010001011


Light Set + 2hand Staff + Mace/Axe with healing power + Shield

Intellect/Endurance

Its a build for CP party, where will be one direct healer + range DPS, Im going here as a DPS + a little support healer.


Or

this build with simillar build stat concept as previous.

www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=411101100100010119111000010100011170110010 011100000

First of all If you use shield, then you need Arrowblocade, that is awesome against archers, and devotion is useless without will. So go as Magic Guard Officer if you want to tank and make dmg, or Clown if pure dmg, Artistry/Sorcerry combo can make crits 10 + k

Voom
04-06-2014, 07:47 AM
I'm somewhat past the theorycrafting stage. I've played all trees to lvl 50. I have multiple 50s and 40s. Most if not all the things I've mentioned is from experience and not from theory crafting.

Right, I wasn't directly that comment towards you and other players who have given solid feedback to these types of theory-crafting. I was referring more to the frequency of broken build ideas. People who haven't played don't understand the tree symmetry and cool-down and wanted features as much as those who have :)

Sekkusu
04-06-2014, 08:30 AM
Right, I wasn't directly that comment towards you and other players who have given solid feedback to these types of theory-crafting. I was referring more to the frequency of broken build ideas. People who haven't played don't understand the tree symmetry and cool-down and wanted features as much as those who have :)

It seems like I'm lacking a bit of self esteem as of late. Need to do some more push ups...

debugger
04-07-2014, 01:55 AM
Ok, so how about this ?

www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=911100000010011116101110001000101110110101 010010100

Devo/Conj/Magic

was thinking aboit changing loving soul to tsunami from conju.

Legion
04-07-2014, 02:06 AM
Ok, so how about this ?

www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=911100000010011116101110001000101110110101 010010100

Devo/Conj/Magic

was thinking aboit changing loving soul to tsunami from conju.

I'll say you one most important thing, devotion without will is quite bad, its average PvE build, nothing more

debugger
04-07-2014, 03:11 AM
I'll say you one most important thing, devotion without will is quite bad, its average PvE build, nothing more

so basiclly its better to change devo for artristry?

Magic/Artristry/Conjury? something like this ?

www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=801101100010100116101110001000101110110101 010010100

Legion
04-07-2014, 03:36 AM
so basiclly its better to change devo for artristry?

Magic/Artristry/Conjury? something like this ?

www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=801101100010100116101110001000101110110101 010010100

yap, more or less, take meteor, very useful AoE in Mass PvP and change time compression to Absorbtion, bonus 15 % magic res can save you from wiz =]

Sargeras
04-09-2014, 12:24 AM
IF you want be a mage support, change healing tree with Artistry,

Legion
04-09-2014, 12:34 AM
IF you want be a mage support, change healing tree with Artistry,

Mage support is good only at PvE =]

Sargeras
04-09-2014, 12:39 AM
Yep, but if a ppl want to be one, can't kick they ♥♥♥ to force them do normal builds :)

Legion
04-09-2014, 12:42 AM
Yep, but if a ppl want to be one, can't kick they ♥♥♥ to force them do normal builds :)
But he already got normal build, more or less, and now you say him to change damage output to heal, which is useless without will =]

Sargeras
04-09-2014, 12:48 AM
I think i miss his second build. My mind was shocked after first post build, so was even can't read all after it :)