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Whoaness
04-15-2014, 10:42 PM
So I just wanted to make a straight forward archer build that has a lot of movement and escapes.

Here it is. (www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=511111100101110117001001100110011030000110 110000000)

I definitely don't know a lot of the stats in the game, like bloodthirst ("deathwish") stacks, range power and base attack, so I think I made something that will work out.

Laxus
04-16-2014, 04:30 AM
Link (www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=511001100111110117011011000110001030000110 110100000)
This is what i would probably go with if you want escapes and mobility.

Venge
04-16-2014, 04:46 AM
Nope Not cookie cutter since that is not the cookie cutter build in Korea or Russia. But does have some ideas that they use. Check archeage source if you haven't for builds.

Archaous
04-16-2014, 05:43 AM
This is more of a PvE build but a good one non the less.

Whoaness
04-16-2014, 07:16 AM
Link (www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=511001100111110117011011000110001030000110 110100000)
This is what i would probably go with if you want escapes and mobility.

Cool Cool. Now let's discuss about some things so I can understand it a bit more.

Ankle - I guess this is more of a PVE thing because PVP is a half chance of working?
Eagleclaw - A permanent 15% range damage buff seems OP, why not take this?
Plunge - I guess you take this in case someone gets in range, but seems more of a melee ability.
Quickshot - It says it deals no base damage, why take this over Toxic shot which seems like an extra DoT?
Wing of Defense - Is there a duration for this? I didn't see one so I didn't bother taking it.

Also, I still don't know what bloodthirst or deathwish is.

iceman
04-16-2014, 07:58 AM
Cool Cool. Now let's discuss about some things so I can understand it a bit more.

Ankle - I guess this is more of a PVE thing because PVP is a half chance of working?
Eagleclaw - A permanent 15% range damage buff seems OP, why not take this?
Plunge - I guess you take this in case someone gets in range, but seems more of a melee ability.
Quickshot - It says it deals no base damage, why take this over Toxic shot which seems like an extra DoT?
Wing of Defense - Is there a duration for this? I didn't see one so I didn't bother taking it.

Also, I still don't know what bloodthirst or deathwish is.

Ankle - has 50% shorter duration not lower Chance. 3.5s root is still nice in pvp.
Eagleclaw - is a must imo
plunge+perforation combo is nice for selfdefence agains melees
quickshot - has no cooldown can be used as a main spam skill instead of autoattack
wing of defence - imo useless skill for archer, you need to be in move all the time

will tree without energy shield is not a will tree...
unbeatable isn't that great at least on ru server it doesn't give knockdown immune
theft is another nice skill to use as a selfdefence against melees (of course some skills can break sleep)

about deathwish stacks...
skills from shadow tree are stucking charges of those on you(up to 20 charges). You can detonate it by using perforation(shadow tree) or bleeding arrow(archery tree). Let's say you stacked 20 charges on you. When You use bleeding arrow you will make extra 74x20 dmg and charges gonna dissapear. Only quickshot can stuck it from bow skills.

Whoaness
04-16-2014, 08:19 AM
I understand quickshot's purpose now. Thanks.

Moine
04-16-2014, 10:28 AM
I would really recommend ArcheBase, it shows combos in addition to the skill calculator.

as for the build, i usually see people run something like this. (http://arche-base.com/builds/view/922-Archer_PvP)


Plunge is often used to stun and backflip to keep at optimal range, as melee tends to have a lot of closers.

while some people argue against Rise, it puts you out of range of quite a few melee skills while keeping them in range of you.

as for Ankle, i find that Theft is more useful. you gain a buff(2 if you combo) and 7.5 second sleep if they don't have Will(Auramancy) or Conjury(Witchcraft).

also, if you get in a tough situation; just backflip -> 180 -> Blink and you just jumped 27 meters.

Whoaness
04-16-2014, 01:38 PM
I would really recommend ArcheBase, it shows combos in addition to the skill calculator.

as for the build, i usually see people run something like this. (http://arche-base.com/builds/view/922-Archer_PvP)


Plunge is often used to stun and backflip to keep at optimal range, as melee tends to have a lot of closers.

while some people argue against Rise, it puts you out of range of quite a few melee skills while keeping them in range of you.

as for Ankle, i find that Theft is more useful. you gain a buff(2 if you combo) and 7.5 second sleep if they don't have Will(Auramancy) or Conjury(Witchcraft).

also, if you get in a tough situation; just backflip -> 180 -> Blink and you just jumped 27 meters.

Thanks, I'll keep those in mind when I try it out for real.

I tried using ArcheBase, but I couldn't figure out how to get a link. I press Link and I get a useless link.

TheFell
04-17-2014, 04:59 AM
thanks for this build, will have to try it in beta

Bakemono
04-17-2014, 09:41 AM
So I just wanted to make a straight forward archer build that has a lot of movement and escapes.

Here it is. (www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=511111100101110117001001100110011030000110 110000000)

I definitely don't know a lot of the stats in the game, like bloodthirst ("deathwish") stacks, range power and base attack, so I think I made something that will work out.

lol cookie cutter without quick-shot? Treasure Hunter (www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=511110100101100117011011101100001030100110 110000000)


Melee version of a another cookie cutter: Darkrunner (www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=011110011111000117111001001110001030010100 101000000)

Whoaness
04-18-2014, 08:45 PM
lol cookie cutter without quick-shot? Treasure Hunter (www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=511110100101100117011011101100001030100110 110000000)


Melee version of a another cookie cutter: Darkrunner (www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=011110011111000117111001001110001030010100 101000000)

You don't take 'Like The Wind". Do you feel like the cooldowns are short enough?

Bakemono
04-18-2014, 09:31 PM
You don't take 'Like The Wind". Do you feel like the cooldowns are short enough?

You could easily take it; if you wish, but in-game; you'll most likely be spamming quick-shot. So, "Like the Wind", will be a useless passive and a waste of a stat.

Whoaness
04-19-2014, 08:57 AM
You could easily take it; if you wish, but in-game; you'll most likely be spamming quick-shot. So, "Like the Wind", will be a useless passive and a waste of a stat.

Ah, only experience will be able to figure that out.

I took a look at your melee build, can I ask you about it?

Why not take...
Armsman - 8% damage isn't good enough?
Pull Over - Seems really good for PVP since you can pull squishies out of a pack and mow them down
Deathwill - Double Stacking Bloodthirst seems pretty good
Unbeatable - This CC break isn't good for melee?

Also, seeing the melee build make me wonder... it's going to be pretty hard for ranged to run away from a build like this. So many charges, it's insane.
But I heard melee is weaker in PVP, not really the case?

Whoaness
04-22-2014, 07:40 AM
Ugh, the calculator from that german site is wrong. Quickshot has a bigger mana cost than I thought. It also has terrible proc for Bloodthirst. I thought that stuff would be 100%. Guess I didn't read close enough.

Quickshot does increase DPS output, but it's a huge mana drain and almost not viable for long fights.

I really don't like where it's heading quite frankly. I think I might roll Darkrunner/Politician, but I'm going to research other warfare specs too.

sean1136
04-22-2014, 03:02 PM
Played the RU beta and i have found this to be the best build for Archer. www.archeage-impact.de/index.php?site=talentplaner_eng&action=jumpIn&talents=511111100100100117011011101100001030010100 111000000

Your biggest issues you will face in pvp will be mages. So having skills to get out of there CC and to stop there casting will be the best way to defeat them.