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Celestrata Bloodsong
05-31-2016, 09:52 AM
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Do you have what it takes to rise to royalty? Can you be the first to claim the throne? We challenge YOU, the top guilds of ArcheAge, to see who can declare their independence first!

Starting with the release of ArcheAge 2.9: Ascension on May 31st, we’re challenging you to be one of the first three guilds to found a nation in each region. Special, extra rewards will be given to those who are the first to walk the path of nobility!

The first 3 guilds to found a nation in the North American region and the first 3 guilds to found a nation in the European region will be given the following prize:

First Place – Enoan Galleon Design + 500 Lord Coins
Second Place – Enoan Galleon Design
Third Place – 500 Lord Coins

Important Note: Designs will be tradable and awarded to the Guild Leader to use as they see fit. There is no expiration date on this event, and it will continue until the first three nations are founded in each region. Good luck, future Sovereigns, and watch your backs as you walk the Path to Ascension!

Discuss this with your fellow community members right here.

BackBoyz
05-31-2016, 10:07 AM
ez

Luniliel
05-31-2016, 10:17 AM
What the actual f*** ?

STOP INTERFERING WITH YOUR INGAME MECANICS...

Don't you think that nation will overbalance your servers power already? but yea just add enoans to that .. The logic died so many times on this forums that even the reaper is bored of taking it away everytime.


Edit : Can you add a mythic shortspear aswell ?

Qhei
05-31-2016, 10:21 AM
So it's officially a rush now. What could possibly go wrong?

Baddiez
05-31-2016, 10:23 AM
So ♥♥♥♥ing stupid just give out two enoans like that.. -.- smfh

Myrgatroid
05-31-2016, 10:31 AM
Dear God, why?

Edit: And why can't we have a thread discussing this ill-fated decision in the main forums, where it would have the most visibility?

hipstermau5
05-31-2016, 10:35 AM
Quick guys drop 700k+ on a chance at getting an enoan PogChamp

Hemox
05-31-2016, 10:35 AM
lol this is so dumb

Aired
05-31-2016, 10:35 AM
Dear God, why?

Because founding a player nation as it is now, is a very tedious and expensive task, with very little upside (IMO). A reward like this may help those on the fence actually go for it. However, that said it does seem to be a bit devious since it also means lot more Apex sales.

Suisui
05-31-2016, 10:35 AM
Dear God, why?

Edit: And why can't we have a thread discussing this ill-fated decision in the main forums, where it would have the most visibility?

This is why i posted it there, at least make a sticky or something cause not everyone even knows this is up here

Aserghui
05-31-2016, 10:36 AM
good news. it is not 2 enoans per server...

SirPurple
05-31-2016, 10:37 AM
WTS Enoan Galleon Design + 500 Lord Coins

Huo
05-31-2016, 10:39 AM
Well, watch this kill Kraken East.

It's went from no guilds interested in a player nation to two competing guilds to get a player nation first...

:/

Myrgatroid
05-31-2016, 10:39 AM
Well, watch this kill Kraken East.

Indeed :/ :/ :/

Condemned Chrispy
05-31-2016, 10:41 AM
first place – enoan galleon design + 500 lord coins
second place – enoan galleon design
third place – 500 lord coins


Please tell me this was XL games decision... please...

nebadger
05-31-2016, 10:42 AM
so... the strongest guilds on each server now have a chance to get even stronger with a free enoan galleon if they can be the first people to make a faction. So that seems balanced. Really thought this plan out.

Jaguar
05-31-2016, 10:43 AM
`Little People` are looking at this all wrong. This is your chance to make some money selling wisps for ridiculous values.

Edwardo
05-31-2016, 10:46 AM
I love that there was massive outcry about player nations and what this means for the average player and Trion's response is to have a contest to see who can be player nation first. This is of course financially motivated in that the whale's in respective guilds can swipe hard in exchange of getting the enoan and Trion doesn't care how that impacts the game world, so its just free $$$ for them.

Edwardo
05-31-2016, 10:46 AM
Please tell me this was XL games decision... please...

Only if it goes wrong and people hate it, then they say its XL games, otherwise they take credit.

Condemned Chrispy
05-31-2016, 10:47 AM
Spend allllll your gold on that enoan and player nation and we will come tear it down :)

snapster
05-31-2016, 10:47 AM
@celestrata, How is this a "event"? The rich get richer.

Sethrina
05-31-2016, 10:50 AM
FFS... You really do have the lunatics running the aslyum.

Careby
05-31-2016, 10:50 AM
`Little People` are looking at this all wrong. This is your chance to make some money selling wisps for ridiculous values.

I'm torn - I've saved up wisps to upgrade my weapons, but maybe I should sell them now and upgrade later.

Firstmorpheus
05-31-2016, 10:56 AM
You are the strongest, uncontestable guild. You got a nation first! Let's give you more stuff so you be even stronger and have the rest of the players quit. Yup.

Celestrata Bloodsong
05-31-2016, 10:56 AM
so... the strongest guilds on each server now have a chance to get even stronger with a free enoan galleon if they can be the first people to make a faction. So that seems balanced. Really thought this plan out.

Remember guys, this isn't each server, it's each REGION. That means only 2 of these ships are going to be given out to the entire NA as a whole, and 2 given out to the entire EU as a whole.

Each server has its powerful guild, for sure, but they're going up against all the other powerful guilds in the game, regardless of server. This is more of a cross-server event than an intra-server one.

Condemned Chrispy
05-31-2016, 10:57 AM
Remember guys, this isn't each server, it's each REGION. That means only 2 of these ships are going to be given out to the entire NA as a whole, and 2 given out to the entire EU as a whole.

Each server has its powerful guild, for sure, but they're going up against all the other powerful guilds in the game, regardless of server. This is more of a cross-server event than an intra-server one.

Yes, People realized that it is 2 per region.

People still think this is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ed event..

Was this trions doing or XLgames?

Kressilac
05-31-2016, 11:02 AM
This isn't a big deal. Most guilds were not going to try for a nation to begin with. There's very little upside to it and massive expenses. I'd be surprised if two per region were created. All this does is sweeten the pot for whatever guilds might have been on the fence. They need competing nations for the mechanic to work properly but server transfers and the true nature of most (read not all) PvPers reared its ugly head. There's no loyalty to a server now. No dealing with the mess you created by purpling on every care bear without a decent gear score. No dealing with the mess of guilds that hate your guild because your guild was an ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Even then, if you fight equally geared players and get your ♥♥♥ handed to you, you can always transfer somewhere else instead of get better. Most PvPers that get rolled by organized guilds or have their griefing activities resisted transfer somewhere else.

Planting nation roots removes that freedom so guilds don't want to plant down on a server. It's not worth the hassle let alone the money on a server they were never really attached to anyway. Why spend the money?? So from Trion's point of view, there's this massive game mechanic coming to the game in a few hours that no one is going to use. That's a problem, hence the rewards... Can't say I blame them but it does feel like a bandaid on top of the other ten bandaids that have been applied to game mechanics over the past year or so, starting with the dumb decision to add more servers at head start and the decision to open F2P instead of subscription based.

nebadger
05-31-2016, 11:04 AM
Remember guys, this isn't each server, it's each REGION. That means only 2 of these ships are going to be given out to the entire NA as a whole, and 2 given out to the entire EU as a whole.

Each server has its powerful guild, for sure, but they're going up against all the other powerful guilds in the game, regardless of server. This is more of a cross-server event than an intra-server one.

I know, but that's still 2 VERY STRONG GUILDS that will become even stronger. It's not really cross server though it's not like they are fighting eachother. It's just who prepared everything first economy wise and who can complete the other requirements first. It still means no one that is not already the most powerful guild on a server has a shot at this. It is an unbalanced event, most of these guilds that have a shot at this probably already have an Enoan or 2. Now they get another for effectively free, since if they win this they were already prepared for player factions.

Voluntaris
05-31-2016, 11:20 AM
I know, but that's still 2 VERY STRONG GUILDS that will become even stronger. It's not really cross server though it's not like they are fighting eachother. It's just who prepared everything first economy wise and who can complete the other requirements first. It still means no one that is not already the most powerful guild on a server has a shot at this. It is an unbalanced event, most of these guilds that have a shot at this probably already have an Enoan or 2. Now they get another for effectively free, since if they win this they were already prepared for player factions.

They should add an Enoan Blueprint for everyone who purchases $300 in credits.

Then we'd ALL get BOOM STICKS!

Locotoko
05-31-2016, 11:23 AM
Trion has this whole speech they throw at players about emergent gameplay and non- interference with game play stuff when the AH snipes your item or you get ♥♥♥♥ on by another player but they are able to interfere and screw with the game play any time they want. They have already tanked the Archeum market beyond repair, man handled chat system that was left too long to create a septic environment, now they want to reward people who don't need it. Lets face it the guilds going for player nation either already have the ability to make an enoan or they choose to not have it in place of other boats. My guild has an Enoan and yes it is nice but it is also a huge target that has ♥♥♥♥ turning, even with a typhoon rudder.

Trion needs to stop interfering and making the stronger. Sooner or later no one will join this game at all. There is a system in MMO's that experienced new player look at called the "gear gap". This is how big of a distance between the top players and the average players gear score, armor level or whatever your game uses and if it is reasonable to attempt a push. Most players understand that top level is near unattainable but they also see that level just under as a goal and if it takes multiple thousands of RL money or years to accomplish they walk away. Trion is effectively creating a "grand Canyon" size gap and will start to, if not already, deter players from even trying.

Shalille
05-31-2016, 11:25 AM
So the 2 most unbalanced servers in NA become even more unbalanced, and likewise for EU.......not sure this is smart

jahlon
05-31-2016, 11:31 AM
I give up trying to support the decisions made by Trion in regards to this game.

lvminigirl
05-31-2016, 11:35 AM
Drink the kool-aid peeps, drink it deep!!!!!

Khegobier
05-31-2016, 11:37 AM
Important Note: Designs will be tradable and awarded to the Guild Leader to use as they see fit.

In before the obvious "My guild leader stole our enoan and lords coins and sold them for RMT money" whine posts. LOL!

Slap in the face to:
A) Basically everyone not in the main power guilds on their server, nee, entire region.
B) Basically anyone that plays archeage.

Trino's event giveaways are horribad as always.

Lanceknight
05-31-2016, 11:43 AM
the player nations was just too ♥♥♥♥ty vs the cost so they trying to incentivise guilds.
still a ♥♥♥♥ty thing to do. only proves that even trion has no faith in this game

Sent
05-31-2016, 11:44 AM
What the actual f*** ?

STOP INTERFERING WITH YOUR INGAME MECANICS...



hah! good luck with that one

Focslain
05-31-2016, 12:25 PM
Well this makes the need for sieges and others to get off their collective tails and do something to stop the strong guilds and become strong themselves.

Let's not forget the 10Kg pack that has to go to golden ruins from the castles. That is going to be one hell of a trip.

Lanceknight
05-31-2016, 12:28 PM
Well this makes the need for sieges and others to get off their collective tails and do something to stop the strong guilds and become strong themselves.

Let's not forget the 10Kg pack that has to go to golden ruins from the castles. That is going to be one hell of a trip.

what? how? who? which? where? que? como?

Pooter
05-31-2016, 12:40 PM
I've never seen so many cry babies and mal contents as on this forum. Of course having the first player nations should have a big reward and of course stronger guilds will get them. They put in the work to get a functioning guild that's strong enough. Such entitlement and whinery.

Focslain
05-31-2016, 12:49 PM
what? how? who? which? where? que? como?

Time point : 2:06:00 of the May 13th livestream

Soks explains that the start of the nation quest is making a pack from 1K lord coins and transporting it to Golden Ruins. It's worth 10K gold if turned into the Shadow Merchant on Freedrich Island.

So yeah, let them make the pack that is going to be a major target and yes it generates a system broadcast when crafted.

Meridian
05-31-2016, 01:56 PM
Instead of unbalancing things further, it would make more sense to give an Enoan to the first guild(s) to destroy a nation.

tyranika
05-31-2016, 02:13 PM
So you're giving free enoans in an event where 1 of the current 3 factions can't participate. Seems fair.

Nolorz
05-31-2016, 02:15 PM
Instead of unbalancing things further, it would make more sense to give an Enoan to the first guild(s) to destroy a nation.

this is a nice idea

Eshva
05-31-2016, 02:27 PM
So you're giving free enoans in an event where 1 of the current 3 factions can't participate. Seems fair.

This. ^^

Physician
05-31-2016, 02:30 PM
I saw this coming from months away.

Lanceknight
05-31-2016, 03:07 PM
Time point : 2:06:00 of the May 13th livestream

Soks explains that the start of the nation quest is making a pack from 1K lord coins and transporting it to Golden Ruins. It's worth 10K gold if turned into the Shadow Merchant on Freedrich Island.

So yeah, let them make the pack that is going to be a major target and yes it generates a system broadcast when crafted.

ah ok thanz

Khuul
05-31-2016, 03:45 PM
Why would you hand out prices for creating a Player nation?

Besides as others already pointed out, why create an event with prices that only 67% of the current factions can participate in?

Bunnyleptic
05-31-2016, 03:51 PM
I've never seen so many cry babies and mal contents as on this forum. Of course having the first player nations should have a big reward and of course stronger guilds will get them. They put in the work to get a functioning guild that's strong enough. Such entitlement and whinery.

What are you talking about?
You talk as if those guilds work really HARD to get these things while the majority of the time this is untrue. This game has been catering to them in almost every patch, they didn't work so "hard" as you might think. They got things handed to them, and or things are made easier for them to obtain.

Please, at least do your research before telling misinformation, and before starting to defend Trion and being demeaning towards the players!!
We get enough of that BS already by some Trion employees, tyvm!

Lamini
05-31-2016, 04:14 PM
I saw this coming from months away.

Yup. Next page.

Pooter
05-31-2016, 04:29 PM
So it's easy to hold a guild together and find enough people to do hardcore content on a regular and dependable level? Explains why you're not in one.

Lanceknight
05-31-2016, 04:34 PM
So it's easy to hold a guild together and find enough people to do hardcore content on a regular and dependable level? Explains why you're not in one.

says the guy who clearly is using an alt account to post with

Join Date May 2016
Posts 15

Bunnyleptic
05-31-2016, 04:46 PM
So it's easy to hold a guild together and find enough people to do hardcore content on a regular and dependable level? Explains why you're not in one.

Been there, done that!



says the guy who clearly is using an alt account to post with

Join Date May 2016
Posts 15

Rofl. This pretty much!!

Cohiba
06-02-2016, 07:36 AM
So it's easy to hold a guild together and find enough people to do hardcore content on a regular and dependable level? Explains why you're not in one.

actually the sad reality nowadays, is that most of the guilds that "own" a server are either on a low population server with little resistance and just well organized (as you said) OR (in 90% of cases) are just a big group of huge spenders who bought insane gear and then started killing bosses and gathering even more gold, rewarding their members with gold for participating and therefore basically "paying" everyone to keep going. these guilds exponentially grow faster, while everyone who isn't in these guilds has a very slow growing process, especially when the said guild starts killing other people for profit aswell. this results in a spiral where the dominating guild increases the gear gap dramatically and everyone outside of it has a strong disadvantage and relies on them for certain things (for example try to sneak anthalon when they aren't aware or similar)

these guilds are mainly the ones that have a handful of people willing to drop a few thousand dollars to get a million gold, which is pretty much what it costs to make a player faction in the first days of releasing it.. and they don't really care too much about the extra 200k it costs to make an enoan.. or the couple dozen thousand gold the lord coins may be worth.
these players really don't need this, so it honestly isn't as much of an impact as you think it is. it just makes people feel like they achieved something and accelerates the process of wisp prices going through the roof, which can be very well exploited by any average joe player, who just starts to craft some gear and sells the wisps for a very nice profit.
I personally don't find this very necessary, but honestly speaking ... when looking at the numbers... it seems like this won't make a big difference for guilds that are ready to go for player faction.

with how ridiculously easy it currently is to siege, and how it's near impossible to defend a castle/palace... I feel it's an insane risk people are taking when going for player faction... so go ahead and give them those galleons, just to see some average guild take it down with some sieges easily.
really wondering how that system works.... it looks like it will be siege/castle ping pong from now on? player factions loosing their castle and winning it back immediately so their nation doesn't get disbanded? constant siege victories till someone finally nerfs the attacking side and then suddenly all castles stay as they are? please balance sieges if you want this system to work..

Ridas
06-02-2016, 02:34 PM
Important Note: Designs will be tradable and awarded to the Guild Leader to use as they see fit. There is no expiration date on this event, and it will continue until the first three nations are founded in each region. Good luck, future Sovereigns, and watch your backs as you walk the Path to Ascension!

Discuss this with your fellow community members right here.

Does this mean it is bound? Tradepack event you said it is bound, but it was tradeable. Did you roll the dice again to determine wht to say?

Neverevermind
06-23-2016, 12:54 AM
nice presents for the dray-horses .....i think it dont cares 90% of players ......this 10% percent paying and pulling for how long cost effectiv the rest ....... as a little tip ....you balanced well last update ......but this .... let me know when it has balanced .....then you can give your dray-horses ....jetboats