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garma
11-21-2017, 10:23 PM
Is PTS 4.0 on Nov 22?

exactly
11-21-2017, 10:53 PM
or will we get 2 days like we got for 3.5. Do you understand that the longer its on test the more it helps keep the economy stable etc and not screw over unprepared players. Frankly between Thanksgiving and Christmas I don't have time to test anything or even play hardly! This is seriously the worst time of the year to do this. You are being jerks to your employees too its the holiday season FFS, this reminds me of the movie scrooged...

Muido
11-22-2017, 08:16 AM
Click (http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?334178-4.0-testing-still-on&p=2653992&viewfull=1#post2653992)

Aired
11-22-2017, 10:45 AM
Last Friday I believe it was said they are getting the latest build from Korea today and "hope" to localize it and get it live today, November 22cnd. With that information, if we get it today it will be late. But if they run into any snags or issues it maybe not be until Monday due to the US holiday being tomorrow.

Muido
11-22-2017, 10:51 AM
Well, lets hope for the best, so we get enough time testing and some time to prepare for 4.0 with the full patch notes available.

Etheldreda
11-22-2017, 12:32 PM
It's already to late for real test: for major update it's min 1 month of test they did that during rift game but now............poor they go down.

Gentatsu
11-22-2017, 02:28 PM
Even though Celestrata posted 4.0 Aimed to be on PTS Nov 22nd (http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?334178-4.0-testing-still-on&p=2653992&viewfull=1#post2653992). It is now 4:23pm est time, if they were going to bring PTS down they would have had it posted by now. I am going to hazard a guess that 4.0 will not be put on PTS until 36 hours to 48 hours before December 6th. Every Update, we get told that they are expecting or aiming to have it on PTS 2 weeks in advance and it never happens. I am sorry but this time isnt any different and I am not expecting 4.0 on PTS today.


My post is not meant to be hateful or anything like that, just the truth of the matter from my point of view. Although, It would be nice if it was on PTS today so we did have the 2 weeks to properly test things so they can be fixed.

Muzzy
11-22-2017, 02:30 PM
I'll be writing up that information after lunch. Just waiting on a few more details.

Aired
11-22-2017, 04:34 PM
http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?334231-Delay-to-the-4.0-build-on-PTS

Today taste like sadness :(

https://i.imgflip.com/1q1fjj.jpg

Gentatsu
11-22-2017, 04:39 PM
As posted here (http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?334231-Delay-to-the-4.0-build-on-PTS&p=2654290&viewfull=1#post2654290) just moments ago. PTS will not be getting 4.0 this week. I am therefore not expecting 4.0 until December 4th at earliest with some last minute surprises like what happened with update 3.5.

I was so in hopes of doing some testing on PTS, Sigh.

Muzzy
11-22-2017, 04:40 PM
http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?334231-Delay-to-the-4.0-build-on-PTS

Kinryuu
11-22-2017, 05:04 PM
http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?334231-Delay-to-the-4.0-build-on-PTS

So in other words, we're most likely gonna end up with something similar to the 3.5 PTS experience, with 2 days of time to "test" the update. A few days of testing leaves little to no time at all for players to get prepared for anything, and with the average time it takes you (trion) to make changes or fix issues, it leaves absolutely no chance at all do anything with the feedback given by players on the PTS.

So at this point, there's really not point in having a PTS at all then.
Why would you be waiting until "release date" for PTS to receive the build you are planning to launch? That build should have been in your hands and checked by Trion employees on internal servers weeks ago before going out to the PTS for final testing by the playerbase.

Gentatsu
11-22-2017, 05:06 PM
*recommendation*

I can understand wanting the build to be perfect when its posted to the PTS. But the idea of a PTS is to find problems, issues, bugs and exploits. Therefore, If something is missing from a build, it could still be Posted to PTS as is and called "incomplete 4.0 build" With a small statement of hey, we arent satisfied with this part of the build so do not worry about testing this part at this time, We will post a update to this build as we receive it from XLgames. Doing this would allow the player base on PTS to test and find issues or bugs with the rest of the build that you are satisfied with. This might also help reduce last minute rushing around for each update.

Ygridrin
11-22-2017, 05:20 PM
*recommendation*
Therefore, If something is missing from a build, it could still be Posted to PTS as is and called "incomplete 4.0 build) With a small statement of hey, we arent satisfied with this part of the build so do not worry about testing this part at this time, (...)

I agree completely. It'd be a lot better to just put it up and say what part of this build is right and we'll test that.
However, I know that some people can't read properly (or at all) and will start spreading misinformation about the part they're not supposed to test. *sigh*

Gentatsu
11-22-2017, 05:41 PM
I agree completely. It'd be a lot better to just put it up and say what part of this build is right and we'll test that.
However, I know that some people can't read properly (or at all) and will start spreading misinformation about the part they're not supposed to test. *sigh*
Very true, Ive seen it many times for other games I have Alpha and Beta tested in. Even still, if the players post bug reports about a build and they post about the parts asked not to test it would still make it easier to just look at the reports and say ok, this we know about.. didnt want this tested, and Ok we will add these for further investigation to get fixed.

so Over all I firmly believe it would still make things a lot easier for both Trion and XLgames in the long run.

gruffen2
11-23-2017, 04:02 AM
they only need us to test out the marketplace items to make sure the boxes get delivered properly and the stuff in them has the right stats. it should be obvious at this point they don't care about finding bugs or glitches, or doing anything useful to the game as a whole with the PTS.

mjm
11-23-2017, 06:03 PM
please trion, don't do the same ♥♥♥♥ than the 3.5 patch : delay the update instead publish a bugged patch if required.

Kaemik
11-24-2017, 05:16 PM
Yeah I really wanted to see 4.0 faster so I could answer some questions I have that are specific enough I'm not able to find any info on Google. Easier just to check the 4.0 build than ask a bunch of really off-the-wall questions.

Trymantha
11-26-2017, 12:46 AM
Will you be pushing back the launch date of 4.0 to allow for adequate time for testing?

Yed
11-27-2017, 04:54 AM
Absolutely hilarious. Incompetence at its best. 6 months they delay this patch and PTS won't even be available a week before it's supposed to go Live. Gonna be fun seeing the new bugs and exploits on Live servers.

Didn't they say (again) that they would change and try better with that last Producer Letter or did we already forget about it?

As always, Trion being Trion.

Cirran
11-27-2017, 05:51 AM
So whats up with PTS 4.0? Even Russia have PTS up in 40 minutes. Why Trion is worse than the worst localization team in RU?

gruffen2
11-27-2017, 06:17 AM
So whats up with PTS 4.0? Even Russia have PTS up in 40 minutes. Why Trion is worse than the worst localization team in RU?

at the time of this post it's about 5 am pacific time. it'll be 3-4 hours at least before it comes up (if it comes up today)

Cirran
11-27-2017, 06:27 AM
at the time of this post it's about 5 am pacific time. it'll be 3-4 hours at least before it comes up (if it comes up today)

Ok, so in 3-4 hours its usually the time when "things happens" in NA? xD Will see, i really hope it will be up today.

Xtorting
11-28-2017, 10:05 AM
Hopefully by this morning or afternoon.

vince13
11-28-2017, 04:27 PM
So, no news here?

Loratio
11-29-2017, 07:59 AM
Maybe u could at least open a Thread with the 4.0 Patchnotes @Muzzy?
1 week until 4.0 and no Patchnotes and no Testserver..

Xtort118
11-29-2017, 05:23 PM
A little holiday miracle to open PTR by Thursday morning?

Muzzy
11-30-2017, 01:08 PM
http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?334345-PTS-Downtime-11-27-at-11-30-AM-PST-(7-30-PM-UTC)

Hey everyone. PTS will be going live at 3PM PST