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Justaguy
10-22-2018, 11:13 AM
#omendisband
#piratesarecute

Sorry for taking over this post, I want to make sure no one panics. ~Brasse

5.0 IS STILL SET FOR OCT 24th.

ARCHEAGE CARRIES ON!

KHROLAN, SOCKE and other team members remain!


Good morning, all.

There is a lot of concern this morning about our acquisition, but I want to make sure you know that the games will go on!

I would like to share the official statement from Trion:

"Greetings -- We can confirm that there has been a transaction involving Trion Worlds and its games.

While many of the names and faces you’ve come to know in our studios will remain on through this transition, others will not be making the journey. To those who are leaving us, we are forever grateful for your incredible work and contributions over the years.

We’d like to assure our communities that the games will continue on in capable hands moving forward, as everyone involved is aiming to make this transition as smooth as possible for you. We will have more information to reveal as soon as we possibly can.

From the bottom of all of our hearts, we thank you for your time and dedication to our games and hope that you've enjoyed the experience as much as we have. From spending time with you in game, to seeing you at conventions, to talking with you on livestreams and forums, it's been our pleasure to be a part of this exceptional community with you since our first launch more than seven years ago.
Please know that you have our deepest gratitude. As for our games, we hope you continue to enjoy playing them far into the future!

The Trion Worlds Team"

I'll be here until end of day and will either answer or forward your questions to the team.
It has been a rare honor to share this world with you all!
Brasse

Nuisance Gnat
10-22-2018, 11:14 AM
Confirmed by Brasse in the Trion Creators Discord.

No official word from the AA Department or Trion itself.

Who's staying on staff w/ Gamigo?

Are we still getting 5.0?

Is AA still going to be chugging along?

We had no answers during the layoffs - should we expect any now?

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 11:20 AM
Not true.

Markupatam
10-22-2018, 11:22 AM
Not true.

It is true.

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 11:23 AM
Who else is out?

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 11:24 AM
@Krolan -- You need to chime in here really quick. Has Trino been sold? If so, what does that mean for ArcheAge? Are you staying?

trumpetblower
10-22-2018, 11:27 AM
ANSWER THIS NOW, Or else you will lose a large portion of player base now to the people who detest Gamigo

Xhisors
10-22-2018, 11:28 AM
Who else is out?

I wonder if we should worry about who else is leaving or... be more concerned what will happen with AA as a whole now.

Essex
10-22-2018, 11:28 AM
I want an official word before we do any panicking.

trumpetblower
10-22-2018, 11:29 AM
I'm already panicking I'm about to jump ship knowing it's "Gamigo" and their p2w is on another level thought it was bad now get ready for hell.

Justaguy
10-22-2018, 11:30 AM
Server merge... no patch notes.... no stream....

CitronxD
10-22-2018, 11:32 AM
I hope Khrolan stay !

Xhisors
10-22-2018, 11:37 AM
I want an official word before we do any panicking.

This would be fantastic. But i don't think we will get anything if they indeed got sold. This is probably why the livestream got postponed.

xydros
10-22-2018, 11:38 AM
If true, then the merges make even more sense. If true, they have known about this for a long time, or someone did.

If not, great troll!

Xhisors
10-22-2018, 11:38 AM
Yeah they need to chime in here in case this was all mislead by the post in discord.

LigH
10-22-2018, 11:39 AM
R.I.P. Brasse (https://i.imgur.com/27W6Fs7.png)

EcclipseOfTheMoon
10-22-2018, 11:40 AM
well, i think we need to calm down and see if there are any official statements on an official company site/chan is published or trion staff is answering here. Everything else is just rumoring.

That "news" can be real - bur can be also a big (and worst) fake

Mindaugas
10-22-2018, 11:42 AM
History

Aeria Games was founded in Santa Clara, California as Aeria Games & Entertainment. Two years later they opened their first international office in Berlin, Germany, which later became the company's headquarter.[3] On January 5, the company acquired ijji , 2012.[4]

The company also merged with Gamepot in late 2012.[5]

In February 2014, all its worldwide PC games business including its subsidiary Aeria Games Europe GmbH were sold to ProSiebenSat.1 Media.[6] In May 2016, Aeria Games merged with Gamigo and let go 100 of their formerly 260 employees in Berlin.[7]

Its games are free-to-play and use a micropayment system to generate revenue (in-game item malls and advertising).
If it's Aria Games R.I.P ArcheAge

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 11:43 AM
If true, then the merges make even more sense. If true, they have known about this for a long time, or someone did.

If not, great troll!

Yep, layoffs and stream-line games... merge done... aaaaaaand sold.

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 11:43 AM
It is true.

OK, I concur. Post looks legit.

lllllllll
10-22-2018, 11:44 AM
https://www.mmorpg.com/news/trions-linda-brasse-carlson-seemingly-announces-trions-sale-to-gamigo-1000050232

Goog
10-22-2018, 11:44 AM
nothing


is


happening

https://i.imgur.com/kzpE8A2.png

bobwinner
10-22-2018, 11:45 AM
not really a surprise tbh

Justaguy
10-22-2018, 11:45 AM
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/oABZP6l6mC2zvWb5jGLDpP9vQWwmZwJwZ-1NLOxHyqA/https/i.imgur.com/SupR3rn.png?width=800&height=122

sobin
10-22-2018, 11:46 AM
Typical trion, announce ♥♥♥♥ on some random third party website. Probably safe to assume that AA is dead

lllllllll
10-22-2018, 11:48 AM
https://www.mmorpg.com/news/trions-linda-brasse-carlson-seemingly-announces-trions-sale-to-gamigo-1000050232

Justaguy
10-22-2018, 11:49 AM
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/278551227170553857/504003318612492309/d4271b5746f2deee0f1efab9415d516f.png

Xhisors
10-22-2018, 11:49 AM
Typical trion, announce ♥♥♥♥ on some random third party website. Probably safe to assume that AA is dead

It got announced on discord, other sites are just piggybacking off the discord post. Hopefully we get an official post here.

Kalli Matthews
10-22-2018, 11:50 AM
this was no trion announcement, mmorpg.com got it from a reddit post....

bobwinner
10-22-2018, 11:50 AM
Probably safe to assume that AA is dead
AA was condemned to a short life the day trino decided to go for p2w.
We would still have 1 milion players if the game were on a monthly fee with no p2w.

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 11:52 AM
https://www.mmorpg.com/news/trions-linda-brasse-carlson-seemingly-announces-trions-sale-to-gamigo-1000050232

Hmmm...

She says nothing of it on FB: https://www.facebook.com/Brasse
She also says nothing on her Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/Brasse

Could be a very elaborate hoax.

Xhisors
10-22-2018, 11:53 AM
If it's Aria Games R.I.P ArcheAge

Honestly Trion did a lot for AA. Some may disagree, but they did a lot. People REALLY will see how much worse things can get if this is true.

TrionBrasse
10-22-2018, 11:53 AM
Good morning, all.

There is a lot of concern this morning about our acquisition, but I want to make sure you know that the games will go on!

I would like to share the official statement from Trion:

"Greetings -- We can confirm that there has been a transaction involving Trion Worlds and its games.

While many of the names and faces you’ve come to know in our studios will remain on through this transition, others will not be making the journey. To those who are leaving us, we are forever grateful for your incredible work and contributions over the years.

We’d like to assure our communities that the games will continue on in capable hands moving forward, as everyone involved is aiming to make this transition as smooth as possible for you. We will have more information to reveal as soon as we possibly can.

From the bottom of all of our hearts, we thank you for your time and dedication to our games and hope that you've enjoyed the experience as much as we have. From spending time with you in game, to seeing you at conventions, to talking with you on livestreams and forums, it's been our pleasure to be a part of this exceptional community with you since our first launch more than seven years ago.
Please know that you have our deepest gratitude. As for our games, we hope you continue to enjoy playing them far into the future!

The Trion Worlds Team"

I'll be here until end of day and will either answer or forward your questions to the team.
It has been a rare honor to share this world with you all!
Brasse

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 11:54 AM
If it's Aria Games R.I.P ArcheAge

If this is all true, it doesn't necessarily mean Gamigo/Aeria will be the NA publisher for ArcheAge. That will be up to XL to decide. Maybe it will go in an entirely different direction than what we're expecting.

Xhisors
10-22-2018, 11:55 AM
AA was condemned to a short life the day trino decided to go for p2w.
We would still have 1 milion players if the game were on a monthly fee with no p2w.

Trino didn't decide to go P2W, XL did.

Trino has to do what XL says to do since they don't have development rights to the game.

Shaiye
10-22-2018, 11:55 AM
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/320022226042748930/504002637688078356/unknown.png

is this legit lol

Goethe
10-22-2018, 11:55 AM
Typical trion, announce ♥♥♥♥ on some random third party website. Probably safe to assume that AA is dead

Reading the whole article is hard, even if it has only 3 short paragraphs...


Carlson's statement is unsubstantiated by either Gamigo or Trion at this point, so we'll call it a rumor. We'll keep you posted as the story develops.


Read more at https://www.mmorpg.com/news/trions-linda-brasse-carlson-seemingly-announces-trions-sale-to-gamigo-1000050232#6ZcVHkJUamplCYtL.99

Pleasedont
10-22-2018, 11:56 AM
Gamigo, since it seems you might have bought trion (unconfirmed as of yet) please let yourself be heard. We as players would like to know where the future of AA/Rift/Defiant and many morestands and what you hope to accomplish if you decide to let it go on ._. Most people are rightfully concerned since it is so sudden and nothing was told to us..

Squiid
10-22-2018, 11:56 AM
Will 5.0 be delayed because of this?

Nuisance Gnat
10-22-2018, 11:56 AM
A. What's the deal with the AA 5.0 Patch?
B. Who from the AA staff will remain?
C. Is the new CM also "not making the journey" so we're going to be waiting on a new CM from Gamigo's ranks?

Markupatam
10-22-2018, 11:56 AM
Has Gamigo given any indication on how they will progress with the game's development, especially when in conjuction with XLGames?

Nuisance Gnat
10-22-2018, 11:57 AM
D. How does XL feel about your "transaction" since they don't have a publishing agreement w/ them - but had one w/ you?

lol rly
10-22-2018, 11:57 AM
Are the contracts between publisher and developer going to be the same? Or are they going to be renegotiated, because you might want to tell gamigo they need to get full rights otherwise there's no point.

Venisa
10-22-2018, 11:58 AM
Good morning, all.

There is a lot of concern this morning about our acquisition, but I want to make sure you know that the games will go on!

I would like to share the official statement from Trion:

"Greetings -- We can confirm that there has been a transaction involving Trion Worlds and its games.

While many of the names and faces you’ve come to know in our studios will remain on through this transition, others will not be making the journey. To those who are leaving us, we are forever grateful for your incredible work and contributions over the years.

We’d like to assure our communities that the games will continue on in capable hands moving forward, as everyone involved is aiming to make this transition as smooth as possible for you. We will have more information to reveal as soon as we possibly can.

From the bottom of all of our hearts, we thank you for your time and dedication to our games and hope that you've enjoyed the experience as much as we have. From spending time with you in game, to seeing you at conventions, to talking with you on livestreams and forums, it's been our pleasure to be a part of this exceptional community with you since our first launch more than seven years ago.
Please know that you have our deepest gratitude. As for our games, we hope you continue to enjoy playing them far into the future!

The Trion Worlds Team"

I'll be here until end of day and will either answer or forward your questions to the team.
It has been a rare honor to share this world with you all!
Brasse

So uhh... removal of P2W and bringing back uncensored costumes when?

CitronxD
10-22-2018, 11:58 AM
I hope Khrolan stay ! Q : Will Khrolan stay representing archeage EU/US ?

Rinalee
10-22-2018, 11:58 AM
Hmmm...

https://puu.sh/BPgud/38db951f4a.png

Essex
10-22-2018, 11:59 AM
Let me be among the first to say it with a heavy heart to read this. Let me also be among the first to say thank you for everything that you all done. I know that many hours of your lives was poured into the games we all love. It has been a rare relationship between developer and gamer.

I wish that your future is bright and I know you will all continue to go on being the rockstars that you all are.

To those that are leaving we are saying bye for now not bye forever. The gaming community is a small one and I know we'll meet again in the future. To those that are staying.. I say Heads up... Chest out... There is still work to be done. We are still here and so are you so lets work together to move forward into this new future together.

Thank you for your time, dedication and all the memories that we have made together.


Mak_PTS

Tenki
10-22-2018, 12:01 PM
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/320022226042748930/504002637688078356/unknown.png

is this legit lol
no lol

tinukeda
10-22-2018, 12:02 PM
Well, this isn't a terribly good sign ...

https://imgur.com/Yxjhym3
https://i.imgur.com/Yxjhym3.png

blizplix
10-22-2018, 12:02 PM
XLgames gonna find another publisher if that happen or publish own game

TrionBrasse
10-22-2018, 12:04 PM
Hmmm...

She says nothing of it on FB: https://www.facebook.com/Brasse
She also says nothing on her Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/Brasse

Could be a very elaborate hoax.

Duuuuuude, I haven't had TIME to start looking for a job on Twitter and Facebook - my first duty is to my colleagues and players here.
It's all true, Gamigo has purchased Trion, and the transition is underway.

Khrolan and Socke remain, as do a number of top notch AA behind-the-scenes devs.
ArcheAge will carry on as usual, and 5.0 will launch on October 24th, according to plan!

Hang in there guys,
Brasse

Hokage
10-22-2018, 12:06 PM
Can you please unban my chat ingame before it all happens? I'll never tell Gamigo, i swear :P

EU Ezi Hokage btw :D

Madmonty
10-22-2018, 12:06 PM
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/329119/Report_Significant_layoffs_at_Trion_Worlds_followi ng_acquisition_by_Gamigo.php

PandaPoo
10-22-2018, 12:06 PM
yay monthly tiered Spenders and GM service Enabled
full Eternal set here we GO!!!!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/384295888593485824/504005942350708738/Redeem_TS_US.png

Meowmeow
10-22-2018, 12:08 PM
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/320022226042748930/504002637688078356/unknown.png by evolving do you mean the servers are updating or the remaining 2 legacy servers are being merged?

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 12:08 PM
Duuuuuude, I haven't had TIME to start looking for a job on Twitter and Facebook - my first duty is to my colleagues and players here.
It's all true, Gamigo has purchased Trion, and the transition is underway.

Khrolan and Socke remain, as do a number of top notch AA behind-the-scenes devs.
ArcheAge will carry on as usual, and 5.0 will launch on October 24th, according to plan!

Hang in there guys,
Brasse

Cool. Can we hope that XL finds a new NA publisher or is that topic verboten* at this point?

*See how I tied the German thing in there? :D

Pleasedont
10-22-2018, 12:09 PM
Awf.. For some reason.. Cant help but think of how much I'll actually miss Brasse the dwarf </3 ;/
its been a few years (Rift and now AA).. please notice me senpai before you officially leave

Axxl
10-22-2018, 12:10 PM
1.) Will this effect the release of 5.0?
2.) Are there plans in place for that to either be delayed or still released?
3.) Is there a plan in place to deal with tickets after said release if it is to continue?
4.) Will AA servers go offline during the switch over?
5.) Will there be anything players themselves need to get situated or anything we need to do to prepare for this switch over?
6.) Will our accounts be merged over into their system or do we all have to set up new login stuff?
7.) Dealing with question 6, if we do have to set up new login stuff, will it affect our in game characters and such?

Robeus
10-22-2018, 12:10 PM
@Brasse are we getting merged again or was that "evolution" just badly worded and you mean we're updating to 5.0?

Shaiye
10-22-2018, 12:10 PM
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/320022226042748930/504002637688078356/unknown.png by evolving do you mean the servers are updating or the remaining 2 legacy servers are being merged?

she means evolving to 5.0, not merging the servers

Paintsticks
10-22-2018, 12:11 PM
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/320022226042748930/504002637688078356/unknown.png by evolving do you mean the servers are updating or the remaining 2 legacy servers are being merged?

Wait this is real? Another merge this week?

Khrolan
10-22-2018, 12:11 PM
All,

I don't have a lot of information to provide currently. I can confirm that the news Brasse mentions (edit: about the acquisition of Trion) is accurate. A press release and public facing messages will follow. I'm still here currently and will be providing insight as soon as I can. A lot is in flux right now but I'm committed to providing you with accurate info. To set expectations, details will become available over the course of this week. I do concede that the release date for 5.0 may be delayed.

Thanks for your support,

-Khro

MCBOB
10-22-2018, 12:12 PM
I can't seem to catch a break with this game. Early on I was never a fan of Brasse, with the rare but often too blunt forum posts. She then came on as a CM and I actually thought she did a very good job. She only posted when there was important information and often posted that info with great detail. She also never threw herself in the middle of AA politics, when other CM's did it endlessly, and for no reason. Hopefully there are plans to turn this game around and not just shut it down. It does seem like the game is finally heading in the right direction after 3 really bad years.

Zarcata
10-22-2018, 12:12 PM
Duuuuuude, I haven't had TIME to start looking for a job on Twitter and Facebook - my first duty is to my colleagues and players here.
It's all true, Gamigo has purchased Trion, and the transition is underway.

Khrolan and Socke remain, as do a number of top notch AA behind-the-scenes devs.
ArcheAge will carry on as usual, and 5.0 will launch on October 24th, according to plan!

Hang in there guys,
Brasse


Ok, so what can we do. I have an annual subscription and I am not sure how far this year will go as I have thought so far, especially if such decisions are pending. I'm seriously shocked. Is there already a possibility to cancel the subscription?

PandaPoo
10-22-2018, 12:13 PM
is aria and Kadum being merged? or staying separate servers?

Pleasedont
10-22-2018, 12:13 PM
1.) Will this effect the release of 5.0?
2.) Are there plans in place for that to either be delayed or still released?
3.) Is there a plan in place to deal with tickets after said release if it is to continue?
4.) Will AA servers go offline during the switch over?
5.) Will there be anything players themselves need to get situated or anything we need to do to prepare for this switch over?
6.) Will our accounts be merged over into their system or do we all have to set up new login stuff?
7.) Dealing with question 6, if we do have to set up new login stuff, will it affect our in game characters and such?

answers:
1) No, 5.0 still happens on the 24th.
2) No delays, carries on like normal
3) - no idea
4) AA will go offline for 2days for the 5.0 update (24th-26th)
5) They will handle it for us and make it as smooth as possible
6) - no idea
7) --


All these were answered by Brasse earlier. Check it out again if you've missed it

PandaPoo
10-22-2018, 12:14 PM
answers:
1) No, 5.0 still happens on the 24th.
2) No delays, carries on like normal
3) - no idea
4) AA will go offline for 2days for the 5.0 update (24th-26th)
5) They will handle it for us and make it as smooth as possible
6) - no idea
7) --


All these were answered by Brasse earlier. Check it out again if you've missed it

then Khrolan came in you just missed it

Pietro
10-22-2018, 12:15 PM
Edit: Looks like Aeria is even worse than Trion. Thanks for giving us the last middle finger as you sell away the game to an even worse company Trino. Good riddance.

Xhisors
10-22-2018, 12:15 PM
answers:
1) No, 5.0 still happens on the 24th.
2) No delays, carries on like normal
3) - no idea
4) AA will go offline for 2days for the 5.0 update (24th-26th)
5) They will handle it for us and make it as smooth as possible
6) - no idea
7) --


All these were answered by Brasse earlier. Check it out again if you've missed it

Khrolan just said 5.0 might be delayed.

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 12:16 PM
All,

I don't have a lot of information to provide currently. I can confirm that the news Brasse mentions (edit: about the acquisition of Trion) is accurate. A press release and public facing messages will follow. I'm still here currently and will be provide insight as soon as I can. A lot is in flux right now but I'm committed to providing you with accurate info. To set expectations, details will become available over the course of this week. I do concede that the release date for 5.0 may be delayed.

Thanks for your support,

-Khro

OK, thank you for chiming in. Very diplomatic.

Alrighty... if 5.0 is delayed, why freeze the AH?

Hemox
10-22-2018, 12:16 PM
Huzzah! Trion is going away! Good riddance to you greedy buggers...But, then again, I have heard about aeria games. Hopefully they'll listen to the playerbase...I just know I'm never touching another Trion published game again, at least until they start listening to their customers.

too bad aeria games is prob worse than trion lmao

Nuisance Gnat
10-22-2018, 12:16 PM
All,

I don't have a lot of information to provide currently. I can confirm that the news Brasse mentions (edit: about the acquisition of Trion) is accurate. A press release and public facing messages will follow. I'm still here currently and will be provide insight as soon as I can. A lot is in flux right now but I'm committed to providing you with accurate info. To set expectations, details will become available over the course of this week. I do concede that the release date for 5.0 may be delayed.

Thanks for your support,

-Khro

"still here... currently"

"may be... delayed"

Read between the lines, jah bless bruddah man. Do you, pimpin'. Skkkkwwwwaaaaalllleeeeee!

oreorule
10-22-2018, 12:16 PM
What about tickets currently in to Trion? Will those be handled or do we need to put in new tickets?

Xhisors
10-22-2018, 12:17 PM
Huzzah! Trion is going away! Good riddance to you greedy buggers...But, then again, I have heard about aeria games. Hopefully they'll listen to the playerbase...I just know I'm never touching another Trion published game again, at least until they start listening to their customers.

Trion had to do what XL told them to. Even if we ask something of Trion they have to get XL approval. Hard to blame Trion for the majority of things.

Except their support, never had a good experience with their ticketing system/support reps.

Pleasedont
10-22-2018, 12:17 PM
then Khrolan came in you just missed it

Forum is moving really fast right now, I admit I cant even catch up

voltn
10-22-2018, 12:17 PM
This is a shocker... We need information and all that is happening right now is speculation and fear. This game is not just a game to a lot of us. We care about it and we need some answers right soon.

Xhisors
10-22-2018, 12:18 PM
Forum is moving really fast right now, I admit I cant even catch up

yeah its insane how quickly its moving.

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 12:20 PM
This is a shocker... We need information and all that is happening right now is speculation and fear. This game is not just a game to a lot of us. We care about it and we need some answers right soon.

I'm thinking that Hartsman and the Board didn't tell any of their game directors. It seems as much of a shock to Brasse and Khrolan as it is to us. I mean, seriously... cleaning out your desk and leaving the day this is announced?

Pleasedont
10-22-2018, 12:23 PM
hmmm...

https://puu.sh/bpgud/38db951f4a.png

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...........

PandaPoo
10-22-2018, 12:24 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/384295888593485824/504005942350708738/Redeem_TS_US.png
monthly tiered Spenders!!!

Axxl
10-22-2018, 12:25 PM
Being a previous customer of Aeria games (The company merged in with Gamigo) It's bad news all around. Games go to them to die. Their customer service lacks, I used to wait months for replys on simple bug fixes. Their games always are heavy in botting. And their methods are 100% Grind your life away or Pay to Win.

Now I haven't played any of their more recent stuff, I only know Aeria, not Gamigo itself. But it doesnt seem like a bright future for AA. Not that we had a bright future left to begin with. I really hope that I am wrong, and that they have changed their company for the better, and that AA gets a little TLC so that we can all still enjoy it for as long as we can.

Pryam
10-22-2018, 12:26 PM
So the one thing they had control over they did a ♥♥♥♥ty job of.

Well I only ever got automated responses .... whereas my friends who paid the company a lot got much better help. f2p isnt everything i guess :confused:

xydros
10-22-2018, 12:26 PM
This is a shocker... We need information and all that is happening right now is speculation and fear. This game is not just a game to a lot of us. We care about it and we need some answers right soon.

It is a game. You might want to consider some health options if you think the game is life. Games come and go and change owners. Life goes on as should yours.

TrionBrasse
10-22-2018, 12:27 PM
What about tickets currently in to Trion? Will those be handled or do we need to put in new tickets?

Every company needs a CS Department, so any existing tickets will be looked after.
Brasse

xydros
10-22-2018, 12:28 PM
Khrolan's comment about being here currently should be very troubling. Shot across the bow. Seems like this was sprung on the staff today. Yikes! But the writing was on the wall with the layoffs and merges, they were heading for a takeover or buyout etc.

Morghause
10-22-2018, 12:30 PM
sad new really :(

Bokunopicoxd
10-22-2018, 12:31 PM
Are the other Trion games affected as much as ArcheAge is?

Shinki
10-22-2018, 12:33 PM
Are the other Trion games affected as much as ArcheAge is?

Maybe nothing gonna change, maybe the game gonna be more p2w (because Amigo-Aeriagames are know for sell some ♥♥♥♥ 250$ pack with GM SERVICE to create whatever item you want...).

Or maybe Xlgame don't gonna agree & broke the Archeage License Agreement.

mythren
10-22-2018, 12:35 PM
Honestly Trion did a lot for AA. Some may disagree, but they did a lot. People REALLY will see how much worse things can get if this is true.


AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHahhahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahha hahah


*breathes*

Oh you were serious?

The only surprise here was how long it took for Trion to finally sink this ship. Jesus the incompetence was staggering.

xydros
10-22-2018, 12:35 PM
One report says only 25 people being retained and that Trino had about 200 employees.

Pleasedont
10-22-2018, 12:37 PM
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHahhahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahha hahah


*breathes*

Oh you were serious?

Lets not forget XL owns and makes this game, not trion. So most p2w things are on XL, stop hating on Trino

xydros
10-22-2018, 12:37 PM
Maybe nothing gonna change, maybe the game gonna be more p2w (because Amigo-Aeriagames are know for sell some ♥♥♥♥ 250$ pack with GM SERVICE to create whatever item you want...).

Or maybe Xlgame don't gonna agree & broke the Archeage License Agreement.

Do you really think that Gamingo would buy Trino without having talked to XL? XL and upper level Trino people have known about this for a while thus the layoffs and the merges for this game. I have no clue what happened with their other games.

Kateri
10-22-2018, 12:40 PM
Hmmm...

https://puu.sh/BPgud/38db951f4a.png

That is what I said when I got there.... Hmmm

oreorule
10-22-2018, 12:41 PM
reload the page

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 12:41 PM
so what happens to apex? is it no longer the currency in archeage? how are subscriptions for free 2 play players now? whats changing in archeage? are servers going down? theres so many damn questions come on this is super unfair for the average player, unbelievable. Seriously, brasse was just getting the ♥♥♥♥ing show on the road. Literally was doing a great job getting the community back up and now we have this, holy crap. Sorry to see you leave brasse, it sucks.

Pleasedont
10-22-2018, 12:44 PM
so what happens to apex? is it no longer the currency in archeage? how are subscriptions for free 2 play players now? whats changing in archeage? are servers going down? theres so many damn questions come on this is super unfair for the average player, unbelievable. Seriously, brasse was just getting the ♥♥♥♥ing show on the road. Literally was doing a great job getting the community back up and now we have this, holy crap. Sorry to see you leave brasse, it sucks.

LOL if XL says let there be APEX, Subscription and cash shop. Then there is no way that could change because Trion is sold to a different company. Dw

Lettersonly
10-22-2018, 12:45 PM
so what happens to apex? is it no longer the currency in archeage? how are subscriptions for free 2 play players now? whats changing in archeage? are servers going down? theres so many damn questions come on this is super unfair for the average player, unbelievable. Seriously, brasse was just getting the ♥♥♥♥ing show on the road. Literally was doing a great job getting the community back up and now we have this, holy crap. Sorry to see you leave brasse, it sucks.

They're shutting down the servers for a few days and wiping all accounts so they can restart the game under the new company.

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 12:46 PM
LOL if XL says let there be APEX, Subscription and cash shop. Then there is no way that could change because Trion is sold to a different company. Dw

I mean you aren't a part of the company so I'm not gonna take your word as a final say all; its still of concern because we are getting near 0 information. I just spent ~50days grinding my ♥♥♥ off for hiram gear and what not, and now you're telling me that private server archeage is more stable than a multi million dollar company and can hand out information faster, im so ♥♥♥♥ing confused. I feel for the people no longer with the company, but as a player whose only goal is to enjoy the free time I have- having no answers to a multitude of questions is really mind numbing. We need more information and we need it now

Pleasedont
10-22-2018, 12:46 PM
They're shutting down the servers for a few days and wiping all accounts so they can restart the game under the new company.

:o

Pleasedont
10-22-2018, 12:47 PM
I mean you aren't a part of the company so I'm not gonna take your word as a final say all; its still of concern because we are getting near 0 information. I just spent ~50days grinding my ♥♥♥ off for hiram gear and what not, and now you're telling me that private server archeage is more stable than a multi million dollar company and can hand out information faster, im so ♥♥♥♥ing confused. I feel for the people no longer with the company, but as a player whose only goal is to enjoy the free time I have- having no answers to a multitude of questions is really mind numbing. We need more information and we need it now

I am not part of any company, but this game is still run by XL, that should be clear as day light.
XL decides what goes in and out, other companies simply publish it OR in rare cases they ask for something to be changed which still has to be approved by XL.
So if XL has apex in RU and KR (since its a good/great source of income) then why would we have it different? Correct me if I am wrong but It speaks for itself really
(whether you still want confirmation is on you, I am not telling you to take my word for it. Im just pointing out the obvious)

Lollaskates
10-22-2018, 12:52 PM
with 4 full downtime days this month (2 days for merge and 2 days for 5.0), we won't be able to reach full loginrewards for the full-month badge. Will all of our checkins be adjusted forward 2-4 days to offset the downtime?

TwitchAngelAyline
10-22-2018, 12:52 PM
I am actually genuinely interested how all the information of everyones account is going to be processed from Company A (Trion) to Company B (Gamigo) without invoking issues with the new EU Law GDPR. Will all accounts on EU be wiped or how will this be solved without getting into problem @Trion ?

Kateri
10-22-2018, 12:52 PM
Brasse *hugs*

Loved ye from our earliest days in Norrath, was so glad to see ye here! I hope to see ye again wherever ye go (go Pantheon!)

Elentiri, Kerewyn, Kimimila and others :)

piratescum
10-22-2018, 12:54 PM
anyone cashing out?? lol

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 12:55 PM
with 4 full downtime days this month (2 days for merge and 2 days for 5.0), we won't be able to reach full loginrewards for the full-month badge. Will all of our checkins be adjusted forward 2-4 days to offset the downtime?

Really? This giant sheetstorm and that's your main concern? :p

romonster
10-22-2018, 12:56 PM
Wishing the best to you, Brasse, and to the others who are affected by this as well.

EcclipseOfTheMoon
10-22-2018, 12:57 PM
@twitchAngelAyline ... there are some ways to handle the EU GDPR ... esp one that requires your agreement to transfer data and can exclude your further use of services if you deny. As a company located in the EU Gamigo should have some practice with the GDPR and how to handle ;)

TwitchAngelAyline
10-22-2018, 12:59 PM
@twitchAngelAyline ... there are some ways to handle the EU GDPR ... esp one that requires your agreement to transfer data and can exclude your further use of services if you deny. As a company located in the EU should have some practice with the GDPS ;)

Yeah this is the thing, that's a alot of work. I'm more worried about the massive wipe that could happen to simplify the work of the new company.

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 01:01 PM
Folks...

Until we get more information, it's in NO WAY certain that Gamigo will be the NA publisher of ArcheAge moving forward. So talking about data transfers and bad mouthing Aeria is pointless. I for one am hoping that XL decides to go in a different direction as far as publishing is concerned.

My guess is that is was Trove that Gamigo wanted. It's wildly profitable and fits their children's genre list of games. Aside from EoS, there really isn't any games like ArcheAge and Rift in their company.

TwitchAngelAyline
10-22-2018, 01:02 PM
Folks...

Until we get more information, it's in NO WAY certain that Gamigo will be the NA publisher of ArcheAge moving forward. So talking about data transfers and bad mouthing Aeria is pointless. I for one and hoping that XL decides to go in a different direction as far as publishing is concerned.

I think personally that NA would have the least issues with data transfers.

oreorule
10-22-2018, 01:04 PM
If Gamigo bought Trion, and continue with the game, then your info should be ok within the GDPR. My guess is that you may have to reenter some information, for instance your credit card if you keep it on file, on Gamigo, but with everything characterwise, you don't own anything. Your email adress and password as connected to your account, both belong to gamigo now. My guess is to get around this, they may ahve you choose a "username" and use your email to verify it.
TLDR should be ok with the EU GDPR

TwitchAngelAyline
10-22-2018, 01:06 PM
If Gamigo bought Trion, and continue with the game, then your info should be ok within the GDPR. My guess is that you may have to reenter some information, for instance your credit card if you keep it on file, on Gamigo, but with everything characterwise, you don't own anything. Your email adress and password as connected to your account, both belong to gamigo now. My guess is to get around this, they may ahve you choose a "username" and use your email to verify it.
TLDR should be ok with the EU GDPR

That's the thing as far as I know it's not how it works, the information can't just be bought up by a company like that. The emails are personal information and can in some cases, not all, be used to "identify" a person. Therefore it could lead to issues since sharing the info like that is against the GDPR. Atm I would like to see a Trion Reprenstive answer this more thoroughly (Not my question only but overall what is the plan. Gamigo or Trion).

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 01:09 PM
How will gamigo tackle multiboxing? use of multiple accounts? what is the model for free2play players to obtain a subscription service ingame? theres so many questions, this radio silence is absolutely disgusting

xydros
10-22-2018, 01:10 PM
That's the thing as far as I know it's not how it works, the information can't just be bought up by a company like that. The emails are personal information and can in some cases, not all, be used to "identify" a person. Therefore it could lead to issues since sharing the info like that is against the GDPR. Atm I would like to see a Trion Reprenstive answer this more thoroughly (Not my question only but overall what is the plan. Gamigo or Trion).

What? Companies are bought and sold all the time. If they bought Trion out completely, then they own everything that Trion owned as they own Trion. Nothing changed other than the ownership interest. Trion is still a functioning company so nothing is changing other than new owners and they have chosen to reducing staffing because they probably already have their own. It happens all the time.

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 01:11 PM
Again, all this speculation on how Gamigo will handle our accounts is pointless when we don't even know if they are even going to be the NA publisher of ArcheAge.

EcclipseOfTheMoon
10-22-2018, 01:11 PM
and if how tho handle user data of companies you have bought under GDPR is the biggest issue ... well ... then we are fine with everything else? My questions would be more to the direction what plan Gamigo has with the game and how they find together with xl (assuming that the contracts between xl and trion are part of the merge). When we as community get any official statement from gamigo? meet their CM? and so on

(Besides the question 5.0 when? patch notes? pts?)

lllllllll
10-22-2018, 01:11 PM
How will gamigo tackle multiboxing? use of multiple accounts? what is the model for free2play players to obtain a subscription service ingame? theres so many questions, this radio silence is absolutely disgusting

dont worry, it will be just some weeks till all answeres xD

Celeius
10-22-2018, 01:13 PM
What? Companies are bought and sold all the time. If they bought Trion out completely, then they own everything that Trion owned as they own Trion. Nothing changed other than the ownership interest. Trion is still a functioning company so nothing is changing other than new owners and they have chosen to reducing staffing because they probably already have their own. It happens all the time.

Gamigo already fired 175 of trion's 200 employees. So no.

Gamigo, also known as Aeria Games, is notoriously one of the worst publishers of all time. Imo, XL will pull the contract long before Aeria can ♥♥♥♥ it over. and if that doesnt happen, you can expect all development to stalemate. Imo we'll be lucky to see 5.0.

xydros
10-22-2018, 01:13 PM
How will gamigo tackle multiboxing? use of multiple accounts? what is the model for free2play players to obtain a subscription service ingame? theres so many questions, this radio silence is absolutely disgusting

LOL You are exactly what is wrong with the entitlement generation. Who said anything about changes? Nobody. Why not just wait and see what happens like everyone else. If they change the pay structure or F2P model, there is nothing you can do about it other than continue to play or take your money to another game.

xydros
10-22-2018, 01:15 PM
Gamigo already fired 175 of trion's 200 employees. So no.

Gamigo, also known as Aeria Games, is notoriously one of the worst publishers of all time. Imo, XL will pull the contract long before Aeria can ♥♥♥♥ it over. and if that doesnt happen, you can expect all development to stalemate. Imo we'll be lucky to see 5.0.

So no what? What changed? They removed staff. That does not affect the ownership. Spend less time gaming and more learning about real life.

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 01:21 PM
LOL You are exactly what is wrong with the entitlement generation. Who said anything about changes? Nobody. Why not just wait and see what happens like everyone else. If they change the pay structure or F2P model, there is nothing you can do about it other than continue to play or take your money to another game.

tran·si·tion
/tranˈziSH(ə)n,tranˈsiSH(ə)n/Submit
noun
1.
the process or a period of changing from one state or condition to another.




No one mentioned change, except for the ex-community manager, something wrong with my generation LOL. Transition implies change. Change can be of any magnitude. This is what we are asking to find out, what are the changes? and before you say "nothing" i urge you to look up and read the definition of transition again

Celeius
10-22-2018, 01:22 PM
So no what? What changed? They removed staff. That does not affect the ownership. Spend less time gaming and more learning about real life.

Actually I am a game dev myself, as someone who's done extensive research in the industry I know who these people are, even personally to some degree. The game has the financial structure to carry on a long while yet, but that depends entirely on what moves Gamigo pulls. ArcheAge's survival right now depends entirely on the contract with XL games. If XL doesn't like what Gamigo does, byebye game. XL holds all the cards. Not trion, and not Gamigo.

My experiences with Aeria specifically tell me that their platform is not going to treat this game well. Nearly all of Aeria and Gamigo's practices are against what XL has intended for ArcheAge. So right now, it is a waiting game on whether or not the game will even survive until the contract expires naturally.

But what we do know, is Trion as a team does not support the numbers to continue development any longer. Given how Aeria runs, I doubt they'd put any time into such things. But time will tell.

Point I'm making is, I'm skeptical of the future of this game. As for spending less time gaming and more time in real life. I literally work for games. This is real life.

Pryam
10-22-2018, 01:25 PM
tran·si·tion
/tranˈziSH(ə)n,tranˈsiSH(ə)n/Submit
noun
1.
the process or a period of changing from one state or condition to another.




No one mentioned change, except for the ex-community manager, something wrong with my generation LOL. Transition implies change. Change can be of any magnitude. This is what we are asking to find out, what are the changes? and before you say "nothing" i urge you to look up and read the definition of transition again


Atm, all we know the change is people being fired and trino having a new owner... nothing AA related. I mean, it does have "transitioning" and 'new owner'in same sentence kinda.

Xhisors
10-22-2018, 01:30 PM
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHahhahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahha hahah


*breathes*

Oh you were serious?

The only surprise here was how long it took for Trion to finally sink this ship. Jesus the incompetence was staggering.

The only incompetence is that 99% of people don't understand what development rights Trion has.. oh wait they don't have any. But keep drinking whatever cool-aid you have.

/shrug

Lettersonly
10-22-2018, 01:31 PM
Guys, I've played video games for over nearly 20 years, so I'm pretty much a ceo of a videogame company. Believe me when I say this game is deadsies. Sell your accounts now and move with your guilds and groups of friends to the next best thing: Runescape, the true sandbox mmo

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 01:32 PM
Can we get one of the red name posters to give us some more information? whats up with the radio silence

xydros
10-22-2018, 01:34 PM
Actually I am a game dev myself, as someone who's done extensive research in the industry I know who these people are, even personally to some degree. The game has the financial structure to carry on a long while yet, but that depends entirely on what moves Gamigo pulls. ArcheAge's survival right now depends entirely on the contract with XL games. If XL doesn't like what Gamigo does, byebye game. XL holds all the cards. Not trion, and not Gamigo.

My experiences with Aeria specifically tell me that their platform is not going to treat this game well. Nearly all of Aeria and Gamigo's practices are against what XL has intended for ArcheAge. So right now, it is a waiting game on whether or not the game will even survive until the contract expires naturally.

But what we do know, is Trion as a team does not support the numbers to continue development any longer. Given how Aeria runs, I doubt they'd put any time into such things. But time will tell.

Point I'm making is, I'm skeptical of the future of this game. As for spending less time gaming and more time in real life. I literally work for games. This is real life.

Trion was a publisher for XL games for NA/EU. Trion was given some latitude in how the game is brought to these regions, XL apparently has the final say.

Celeius
10-22-2018, 01:34 PM
Can we get one of the red name posters to give us some more information? whats up with the radio silence

They're probably still trying to get the information together before posting. It was very sudden for them.


Trion was a publisher for XL games for NA/EU. Trion was given some latitude in how the game is brought to these regions, XL apparently has the final say.

Exactly the point I was making ^^

tzezuko
10-22-2018, 01:38 PM
They're all packing up their desks :x
No seriously, folks give them some time. This is a big transition and it was JUST announced. When there's something official they can tell, they will communicate it to us. Stop panicing. This is a GAME after all. If you are that triggered by this, its time to step away from the computer. Take a walk, get some fresh air...maybe a little sun. The game won't disappear tomorrow.

To the staff of Trion: Thanks for giving me so many wonderful hours of gameplay :3 Still love my RIFT Dimensioneer title and the craziness that was Archeage closed beta.

Dutchydutch
10-22-2018, 01:40 PM
Guys, I've played video games for over nearly 20 years, so I'm pretty much a ceo of a videogame company. Believe me when I say this game is deadsies. Sell your accounts now and move with your guilds and groups of friends to the next best thing: Runescape, the true sandbox mmo

Huh? Why do any of that before we even get any info on what is going to happen. Idk why i just replied to a troll post tbh....but w/e

JustMe
10-22-2018, 01:42 PM
Will 5.0 still happen, and what about compensations?

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 01:42 PM
They're all packing up their desks :x
No seriously, folks give them some time. This is a big transition and it was JUST announced. When there's something official they can tell, they will communicate it to us. Stop panicing. This is a GAME after all. If you are that triggered by this, its time to step away from the computer. Take a walk, get some fresh air...maybe a little sun. The game won't disappear tomorrow.

To the staff of Trion: Thanks for giving me so many wonderful hours of gameplay :3 Still love my RIFT Dimensioneer title and the craziness that was Archeage closed beta.

It was announced some hours ago. It went from some replies every 5-10 minutes to none for some time now.

Celeius
10-22-2018, 01:45 PM
Will 5.0 still happen, and what about compensations?

5.0 should still happen. According to the official post it's still on schedule. but according to Khro, it may be delayed. Given the team who was working on 5.0 and such compensation (such as khro and socke) are still a part of the team, 5.0 will likely happen as will the compensation.

(It's everything after that I worry about)

Nuisance Gnat
10-22-2018, 01:46 PM
It was announced some hours ago. It went from some replies every 5-10 minutes to none for some time now.

Be grateful you got the replies you did when you did. Being told you're out of a job at the end of the day is somewhat of a life-altering situation; she gave you what she could. Khrolan's got to figure out what the hell is going on now (as do all the other people in his position that represent the other games) and I'm sure in the back of his mind he's contemplating what his other employment options are.

Kaezan
10-22-2018, 01:46 PM
This is exacly how gamigo works.
It buys the game and after some time starts sacking all staff leaving ONE (1) person in charge of EVERYTHING.
GJ
i cant believe this..

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 01:56 PM
Be grateful you got the replies you did when you did. Being told you're out of a job at the end of the day is somewhat of a life-altering situation; she gave you what she could. Khrolan's got to figure out what the hell is going on now (as do all the other people in his position that represent the other games) and I'm sure in the back of his mind he's contemplating what his other employment options are.

Why should I be grateful to get service I should be getting period? Sure , as I wrote in other posts in this thread, I feel for the people who lost their job. BUT as a player of the game and my own enjoyment being my #1 priority I'm not going to stop asking questions that need to be answered by this transition. People no longer working at the company has nothing to do with the company answering questions. Sorry to sound so blunt but this is the truth. I care about me, and my time.


edit: Just wanted to say that brasse you really seriously put in work to bring up the communications from the archeage team of trion towards its players. Truly a loss for our community. Your hardwork was noticed and I hope you easily find a comparable job.


As for people still employed, wassup man????? where the answers at.

Nuisance Gnat
10-22-2018, 01:59 PM
Why should I be grateful to get service I should be getting period? Sure , as I wrote in other posts in this thread, I feel for the people who lost their job. BUT as a player of the game and my own enjoyment being my #1 priority I'm not going to stop asking questions that need to be answered by this transition. People no longer working at the company has nothing to do with the company answering questions. Sorry to sound so blunt but this is the truth. I care about me, and my time.

1. Layoffs earlier, reducing staff.
2. Struggling staff.
3. Company sold, people packing up their work area as 90-95% of the company just lost their jobs today.
4. One of those losing their jobs at the end of the day gave you the head's up, otherwise you'd be completely in the dark.
5. The game lead who is still here "currently" made an appearance and said more info would come as he gets it.
6. There's more than just one game, more than just you.
7. Meetings have to be had, logistics have to be explained on a project by project basis.
8. I'd imagine they're also meeting or being introduced to some of their new co-workers/supervisors.

Chill, bruh.

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 02:01 PM
AGAIN -- We have no idea if Gamigo/Aeria will be the NA publisher of ArcheAge moving forward. That will be up to XLGames and whatever the original contract with Trion held them to. Any speculation is pointless.

REMEMBER -- Trion does not own ArcheAge. ArcheAge was not sold to Gamigo. We still do not know if the NA/EU publishing rights to ArcheAge were part of the sale.

It's CLEAR that Khrolan, Brasse and crew had NO IDEA this was going to go down like this today (maybe some clues, but were certainly kept in the dark). The ONLY PERSON we should want to hear from is SCOTT HARTSMAN. Scott needs to release a statement and set all this sheetstorm to rest.

Additionally... Trion Worlds is money backed by Time Warner and Comcast among others. This sale happened at the top to one of the richest game publishers in the world.

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 02:07 PM
1. Layoffs earlier, reducing staff.
2. Struggling staff.
3. Company sold, people packing up their work area as 90-95% of the company just lost their jobs today.
4. One of those losing their jobs at the end of the day gave you the head's up, otherwise you'd be completely in the dark.
5. The game lead who is still here "currently" made an appearance and said more info would come as he gets it.
6. There's more than just one game, more than just you.
7. Meetings have to be had, logistics have to be explained on a project by project basis.
8. I'd imagine they're also meeting or being introduced to some of their new co-workers/supervisors.

Chill, bruh.

1] still a company
2] still a company
3] sold, but still a company
4] heartfelt goodbyes, however, still a company
5] i am positive that hes not twirling in his chair, there must be something they can share with the players of archeage more than "we've been sold, brb until we know more"
6] many games, many players, still a company that needs to be providing customer service
7] meetings, logistics, project basis; still a company that needs to be providing customer service
8] I didn't know that saying hello nice to meet you has anything to do with providing customer service.


when companies like sprint and tmobile merge/get bought out, there is no down time in customer service. I can still call either of these companies, and get serviced for the product I am attached with.

I understand your points, however customer service is crucial and needs to be provided

Xhisors
10-22-2018, 02:13 PM
1]
when companies like sprint and tmobile merge/get bought out, there is no down time in customer service. I can still call either of these companies, and get serviced for the product I am attached with.

I understand your points, however customer service is crucial and needs to be provided

Comparing companies with thousands of employees, to Trion which is a fraction of the size is not really a fair comparison.


Staff being stretched thin is extremely taxing on the organization. Of course they are still a company, but services suffer when staff is pushed to the limit.

Goog
10-22-2018, 02:18 PM
1] still a company
2] still a company
3] sold, but still a company
4] heartfelt goodbyes, however, still a company
5] i am positive that hes not twirling in his chair, there must be something they can share with the players of archeage more than "we've been sold, brb until we know more"
6] many games, many players, still a company that needs to be providing customer service
7] meetings, logistics, project basis; still a company that needs to be providing customer service
8] I didn't know that saying hello nice to meet you has anything to do with providing customer service.


when companies like sprint and tmobile merge/get bought out, there is no down time in customer service. I can still call either of these companies, and get serviced for the product I am attached with.

I understand your points, however customer service is crucial and needs to be provided
1. Companies take time adjusting to change, especially since layoffs mean higher load on the employees left
2. Companies can still struggle
3. A company that was sold has internal issues to deal with (angry ex-employees for example)
4. Companies are ran by people, and morale is probably severely impacted by such changes.
5. He might not be legally allowed to share more information (NDA for example) or chooses not to for other reasons (Things are not decided yet).
6. Providing customer service during a ♥♥♥♥storm with fewer people to handle it makes it more difficult.
7. After big internal changes, employees are stuck in meetings, and work gets delayed. That's how it is in the real world.
8. It takes a while to greet new people, have them explain what they do, possibly explain the full situation to employees who were left in the dark so far.


The remaining employees could have ditched work today to focus on internal restructuring and meetings explaining how things will be handled from now on.

You're stupid if you believe the fact that "they're a company" deletes the human element behind it.

Reyki
10-22-2018, 02:24 PM
Why should I be grateful to get service I should be getting period?

And that's exactly why the other said generation entitlement. Why do you think you should be getting anything? You are probably not the priority right now, neither for the Trion staff nor for any new owner.

Lettersonly
10-22-2018, 02:31 PM
And that's exactly why the other said generation entitlement. Why do you think you should be getting anything? You are probably not the priority right now, neither for the Trion staff nor for any new owner.

Thank you, finally someone who gets it. Why should any company give a ♥♥♥♥ about the people that use their product? Literally at the bottom of the list.

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 02:32 PM
And that's exactly why the other said generation entitlement. Why do you think you should be getting anything? You are probably not the priority right now, neither for the Trion staff nor for any new owner.

Customer not priority for a business, makes sense. I guess I am a part of the entitled yet logical generation. Thanks for your input! Great customer service Reyki, well said!

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 02:32 PM
Thank you, finally someone who gets it. Why should any company give a ♥♥♥♥ about the people that use their product? Literally at the bottom of the list.

yea seriously, don't know why im barking from all the way down here, guess its the entitlement in my blood

lycanknight
10-22-2018, 02:33 PM
take care brasse and the rest of the crew heading for new adventures and more interesting places wish you luck in the job search and hope all works out be safe and just take a day or two to enjoy the family and the dog or cat before the job hunt just recharge those batteries and then go from there

Neischi
10-22-2018, 02:41 PM
Here is the reason why Gamigo could buy Trion....


gamigo AG successfully places bond of EUR 32 million
Hamburg, October 12, 2018 – gamigo AG is pleased to announce that it has successfully placed senior secured bonds in the amount of EUR 32 million pursuant to a bond frame of up to EUR 50 million, following a European bookbuilding process. The bonds, maturing in October 2022, will bear a floating rate coupon of 3 months Euribor + 7.75%. The proceeds from the bond issue will be used to repay existing debt, finance further growth and M&A as well as other general corporate purposes. The bonds will be listed on Nasdaq Stockholm and Frankfurt Stock Exchange Open Market (best effort basis) with ISIN: SE0011614445. Pareto Securities AB, Stockholm acted as Sole Bookrunner for the bond issue.

“We are very pleased with the interest and trust that we have received from investors primarily in Sweden and Continental Europe. This bond issue enables us to continue pursuing our growth ambitions including further M&A”, says Remco Westermann, CEO of gamigo.

About gamigo:

gamigo is a leading game publisher in Europe and North America, concentrating on online and mobile games. The company actively launches online and mobile games and has shown a strong profitable growth track record in the previous years as market consolidator.

Aislinna
10-22-2018, 02:42 PM
1] still a company
2] still a company
3] sold, but still a company
4] heartfelt goodbyes, however, still a company
5] i am positive that hes not twirling in his chair, there must be something they can share with the players of archeage more than "we've been sold, brb until we know more"
6] many games, many players, still a company that needs to be providing customer service
7] meetings, logistics, project basis; still a company that needs to be providing customer service
8] I didn't know that saying hello nice to meet you has anything to do with providing customer service.


when companies like sprint and tmobile merge/get bought out, there is no down time in customer service. I can still call either of these companies, and get serviced for the product I am attached with.

I understand your points, however customer service is crucial and needs to be provided

What service are you not receiving?

As far as I can tell, uninterrupted service is being provided as usual. I just logged into the game with no issues (expected service received). I just logged into my Glyph account and all credits/items are still there (expected service received). I was unofficially informed that Trion has been sold, staff was laid off and more information will be provided as available (unexpected, but appreciated). I was informed that the 5.0 release "MAY" be delayed and more information will be provided as available (expected service received).

I'm not really sure what you are expecting, but you seem to feel entitled to instantaneous answers that aren't available; but you do you and double down.

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 02:49 PM
What service are you not receiving?

As far as I can tell, uninterrupted service is being provided as usual. I just logged into the game with no issues (expected service received). I just logged into my Glyph account and all credits/items are still there (expected service received). I was unofficially informed that Trion has been sold, staff was laid off and more information will be provided as available (unexpected, but appreciated). I was informed that the 5.0 release "MAY" be delayed and more information will be provided as available (expected service received).

I'm not really sure what you are expecting, but you seem to feel entitled to instantaneous answers that aren't available; but you do you and double down.

expected service recieved, today. How about tomorrow? What if I wanted to spend $1,000 dollars in APEX tonight, however I am unsure that tomorrow this game will exist in the same capacity as it does today, is there anything communicating that will not be the case? No, hence why some form of communication in the form of customer service needs to be provided. Saying im expecting instantaneous answers would make sense if I was on the phone and I was talking to you. I'm sitting here like most others, refreshing the page with no communications in sight.

Nerrivic
10-22-2018, 03:06 PM
Well this is a wild bit of news, though I must say suspected something like this to happen ever since the first wave of layoffs some months ago.

I'd just like to know two things as soon as possible:
Are the freshly merged servers here to stay for a while?
Are our accounts safe as they are?

Please tell me this has all been planned for some time, and the merge is actually a thoughtful part of the plan, and the game will go on as it is without any more upheavel in the near future/2019....

lycanknight
10-22-2018, 03:08 PM
expected service recieved, today. How about tomorrow? What if I wanted to spend $1,000 dollars in APEX tonight, however I am unsure that tomorrow this game will exist in the same capacity as it does today, is there anything communicating that will not be the case? No, hence why some form of communication in the form of customer service needs to be provided. Saying im expecting instantaneous answers would make sense if I was on the phone and I was talking to you. I'm sitting here like most others, refreshing the page with no communications in sight.

too be truthfully honest and not trying to fight with you here we never as gamers have that 100% certainy or understanding that everything will be the same from day to day they could legitimately close the servers tomorrow and not tell anyone ofc then there would be other issues there but thats a thing we never know if our games will be up and running no one can ever tell us things happen all the time i do get what your saying it would be nice to know if you dropped any kinda $ $ on the game would it still be around to see that investment or what not paid back in other manners though right now i'm not even sure any of them actually have the answers your looking for and if they do you may not even like them lol again this wasn't meant as a fight or anything just felt it was worth mentioning here games change day to day and keep in mind trion just lost all but maybe ...... maybe 25 of its ppl and all i can say at this point and its not helpful is just watch the forums for a day or two if its radio silence all that time or only 2 or 3 pop ins then yeah get in there and pry hard for answers but right now no one really has anything least of all the ppl that just got blindsided by this yeah it sucks for us but these ppl literally just got pink slips meaning no more income meaning if single parents they are very in peril for funding for their children and homes we aren't exactly at the top of their list right now nor should we be tomorrow yes we should be at the front and given answers or at least by the next day thats my feelings anyway

Aislinna
10-22-2018, 03:11 PM
expected service recieved, today. How about tomorrow? What if I wanted to spend $1,000 dollars in APEX tonight, however I am unsure that tomorrow this game will exist in the same capacity as it does today, is there anything communicating that will not be the case? No, hence why some form of communication in the form of customer service needs to be provided. Saying im expecting instantaneous answers would make sense if I was on the phone and I was talking to you. I'm sitting here like most others, refreshing the page with no communications in sight.

Has Trion (or any company, for that matter) ever communicated "the game will exist tomorrow in the same capacity it exists today"? No.

Your turn to double down.

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 03:16 PM
Has Trion (or any company, for that matter) ever communicated "the game will exist tomorrow in the same capacity it exists today"? No.

Your turn to double down.

What are banks? banks are companies that promise some sort of existence of your currencies in the future, when you bank with said companies. ok your turn now

Aislinna
10-22-2018, 03:31 PM
What are banks? banks are companies that promise some sort of existence of your currencies in the future, when you bank with said companies. ok your turn now

Really, your bank literally tells you everyday that "tomorrow will be the same as today, rates are not changing, services are not changing". Good for you, my bank has never communicated that to me. My bank only communicates about upcoming changes that they are obligated to tell me about. And I'm certain that if my bank fails and closes, I will not be told in advance about it.

But for you it seems an implied promise that your real life money is safe in a bank is good enough for you, but an implied promise that an online game will exist tomorrow is not good enough for you?

Gonna double down again?

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 03:37 PM
Really, your bank literally tells you everyday that "tomorrow will be the same as today, rates are not changing, services are not changing". Good for you, my bank has never communicated that to me. My bank only communicates about upcoming changes that they are obligated to tell me about. And I'm certain that if my bank fails and closes, I will not be told in advance about it.

But for you it seems an implied promise that your real life money is safe in a bank is good enough for you, but an implied promise that an online game will exist tomorrow is not good enough for you?

Gonna double down again?

I can call my bank 100000000000000000 times a day and make sure my money is there. Implied promise that can be researched upon because there are people employed to provide Customer Service.


I can sit here and refresh this page 10000000000000000 times and still see no response, how does that implied promise work in comparison?



If a bank fails and closes, of course you would be told in advance about it, thats why there are lengthy closeouts and bankruptcies. you seem to pretend that there is some secret hierarchy that we are not a part of and all companies are exempt from communicating in advance, or not in advance about things that will affect their consumers.

Your turn

Madmonty
10-22-2018, 03:37 PM
Interesting article:

gamigo AG: acquisition of Trion Worlds games company to further strengthen its market-position in the games market

gamigo AG / Key word(s): Mergers & Acquisitions
gamigo AG: acquisition of Trion Worlds games company to further strengthen its market-position in the games market

22-Oct-2018 / 21:55 CET/CEST
Disclosure of an inside information acc. to Article 17 MAR of the Regulation (EU) No 596/2014, transmitted by DGAP - a service of EQS Group AG.
The issuer is solely responsible for the content of this announcement.

Disclosure of an inside information acc. to Article 17 MAR of the Regulation (EU) No 596/2014

gamigo AG: acquisition of Trion Worlds games company to further strengthen its market-position in the games market.

Hamburg, October 22, 2018: gamigo AG ("gamigo Bond" WKN: A2NBH2 / ISIN: SE0011614445) has acquired major assets from Trion Worlds Inc. Trion Worlds is a leading US gaming company with offices in Redwood City (California) and Austin (Texas) and has as publisher and developer of online and console MMO-games, well-known games such as Rift, Defiance, Trove and ArcheAge in it's portfolio. The assets of the company have been acquired by gamigo's subsidiary Golden Gate Games Inc., via an "Assignment for the Benefit of the Creditors" process, in which the buyer only buys those assets, with which he wishes to continue the business.

The gamigo group has acquired the majority of the assets, including the platform, takes over employees to operate the business and gets the full publishing rights of the games. The IP's of the Trion Worlds games have been acquired by gamigo's sister company Padmapani GmbH and are made available for gamigo group, worldwide and exclusive.

It is expected that the Trion Worlds acquisition will add on gamigo group level revenues of at least USD 18 million in 2019. Depending on the speed and success of restructuring and integration, management expects an additional EBITDA of USD 1 to 4 million, based on unlocking substantial synergies and economies of scale as proven in numerous acquisitions before.

The full purchase price amounts to a low USD two-digit million amount (including possible earn-outs).



About gamigo AG:
Since its foundation in 2000, gamigo has developed into one of the leading publishers of free-to-play online and mobile games in Europe and North America. In total, the gamigo Group employs more than 250 employees at its headquarter in Hamburg and branches in Berlin, Münster, Darmstadt, Cologne (Germany), Warsaw (Poland), Istanbul (Turkey), Chicago (USA) and Seoul (Korea). The company's core portfolio includes successful gaming titles such as Aura Kingdom, Desert Operations, Dragon's Prophet, Echo of Soul, Fiesta Online, Goal One, Last Chaos, Shaiya and Twin Saga. gamigo grows via organic growth as well as through acquisitions and has made over 20 acquisitions since 2013, including games, media and technology companies as well as individual game assets.

Disclaimer:

This release may contain forward-looking statements based on current assumptions and forecasts made by the management of gamigo AG or its affiliated companies. Various known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors could lead to material differences between the actual future results, financial situation, development or performance of gamigo AG and its affiliated companies and the estimates given here. Neither gamigo AG nor its affiliated companies assume any liability to update these forward- looking statements or to adapt them to future events or developments.

For further information please contact:

Gamigo AG
Public and Investor Relations
Email: pr@gamigo.com

Issuer:

gamigo AG
Behringstraße 16 B
22765 Hamburg
Germany
Email: info@gamigo.com
Web-Page: www.gamigo.ag

https://www.dgap.de/dgap/News/adhoc/gamigo-acquisition-trion-worlds-games-company-further-strengthen-its-marketposition-the-games-market/?companyID=382416&newsID=1103179

Xhisors
10-22-2018, 03:44 PM
I can call my bank 100000000000000000 times a day and make sure my money is there. Implied promise that can be researched upon because there are people employed to provide Customer Service.


I can sit here and refresh this page 10000000000000000 times and still see no response, how does that implied promise work in comparison?



If a bank fails and closes, of course you would be told in advance about it, thats why there are lengthy closeouts and bankruptcies. you seem to pretend that there is some secret hierarchy that we are not a part of and all companies are exempt from communicating in advance, or not in advance about things that will affect their consumers.

Your turn

You got responses. The games not closing, 5.0 might be delayed, Khrolan is still here, Archage will go on for now.

What more do you want? The team can't give us info they themselves don't even know.

xydros
10-22-2018, 03:46 PM
I can call my bank 100000000000000000 times a day and make sure my money is there. Implied promise that can be researched upon because there are people employed to provide Customer Service.


I can sit here and refresh this page 10000000000000000 times and still see no response, how does that implied promise work in comparison?



If a bank fails and closes, of course you would be told in advance about it, thats why there are lengthy closeouts and bankruptcies. you seem to pretend that there is some secret hierarchy that we are not a part of and all companies are exempt from communicating in advance, or not in advance about things that will affect their consumers.

Your turn

You really should stop because you know very little about how businesses work. A bank can close tomorrow. They do not need to notify you. Plenty of banks have gone insolvent and the only reason people get their money back is because they are insured.

The new owners could shut down AA tomorrow and walk away and owe you nothing. Buying anything from any of the Trino games right now would be unwise as nobody knows what is going to happen.

From the press release by Gamigo it appear that they have purchased assets including licensing and producing rights from Trion. It did not say that it purchased Trion Worlds Inc. That just clouds the waters even more. I would expect some big changes on how the game is run.

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 03:52 PM
So, if Trion went down to 25 employees across the entire company in both Redwood City and Austin, who is left working on ArcheAge? Only Khrolan and Socke? Anyone else? Seems like everyone else got canned.

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 03:55 PM
You really should stop because you know very little about how businesses work. A bank can close tomorrow. They do not need to notify you. Plenty of banks have gone insolvent and the only reason people get their money back is because they are insured.

The new owners could shut down AA tomorrow and walk away and owe you nothing. Buying anything from any of the Trino games right now would be unwise as nobody knows what is going to happen.

From the press release by Gamigo it appear that they have purchased assets including licensing and producing rights from Trion. It did not say that it purchased Trion Worlds Inc. That just clouds the waters even more. I would expect some big changes on how the game is run.

this has nothing to do with the lack of customer service being provided prior to today, as well as today; which is what im arguing here. The company, old or new, need to be providing customer service, simply saying "We are going to answer you when we can" isn't enough, imo.

As far as knowing how businesses work thats a giant assumption youre making considering I own multiples.


As far as buying anything from trion games, is also what I said earlier in one of my posts. If I wanted to spend $1000 dollars tonight but was unsure if the game was going to be available. This is when I was being shoved with posts like "tomorrow isnt promised!!!!!!!!" "no company promises anything!!!!!!"

Xhisors
10-22-2018, 03:56 PM
So, if Trion went down to 25 employees across the entire company in both Redwood City and Austin, who is left working on ArcheAge? Only Khrolan and Socke? Anyone else? Seems like everyone else got canned.

Looks like it will fall on gamigo to support the game. Thats ONLY if XL approves Gamigo to be a publisher. If XL does not approve.... i wonder if they will look for someone else or let the sun set. :(

Jackalope
10-22-2018, 04:02 PM
question: So I am also curious if trion has only the rights to publish archeage right that means they can't sell the rights unless xl gives the ok, which means that its up to xl to allow it or say no? Because it mentions buying all of trions games, well trion doesnt own archeage it only has the rights to publish, so does that mean maybe gamigo wont own archeage since its technically not a trion game?

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 04:05 PM
question: So I am also curious if trion has only the rights to publish archeage right that means they can't sell the rights unless xl gives the ok, which means that its up to xl to allow it or say no? Because it mentions buying all of trions games, well trion doesnt own archeage it only has the rights to publish, so does that mean maybe gamigo wont own archeage since its technically not a trion game?

Correct. It remains to be seen whether Gamigo/Aeria will be the NA/EU publisher of ArcheAge. There has been no official statement from Trion, XLGames or Gamigo on the matter yet.

Aislinna
10-22-2018, 04:06 PM
I can call my bank 100000000000000000 times a day and make sure my money is there. Implied promise that can be researched upon because there are people employed to provide Customer Service.


I can sit here and refresh this page 10000000000000000 times and still see no response, how does that implied promise work in comparison?



If a bank fails and closes, of course you would be told in advance about it, thats why there are lengthy closeouts and bankruptcies. you seem to pretend that there is some secret hierarchy that we are not a part of and all companies are exempt from communicating in advance, or not in advance about things that will affect their consumers.

Your turn

Your bank does not initiate communication with you about nothing changing with your service. If you want to submit 100000000000000000 official customer support tickets to research that the game will be here tomorrow, go ahead, because it has been said many times that this forum is not where you receive customer support.

And since you mention that companies are required to communicate to you in advance about things that affect your service, then you must believe that Trion will communicate in advance if anything affects you. Until then, enjoy the uninterrupted game service you are receiving "today".

Xhisors
10-22-2018, 04:08 PM
question: So I am also curious if trion has only the rights to publish archeage right that means they can't sell the rights unless xl gives the ok, which means that its up to xl to allow it or say no? Because it mentions buying all of trions games, well trion doesnt own archeage it only has the rights to publish, so does that mean maybe gamigo wont own archeage since its technically not a trion game?

Correct, XL would have to approve the publishing rights transfer to gamigo. Something tells me they won't.

Highly interested in where this road leads.

Jesyka
10-22-2018, 04:10 PM
too be truthfully honest and not trying to fight with you here we never as gamers have that 100% certainy or understanding that everything will be the same from day to day they could legitimately close the servers tomorrow and not tell anyone ofc then there would be other issues there but thats a thing we never know if our games will be up and running no one can ever tell us things happen all the time i do get what your saying it would be nice to know if you dropped any kinda $ $ on the game would it still be around to see that investment or what not paid back in other manners though right now i'm not even sure any of them actually have the answers your looking for and if they do you may not even like them lol again this wasn't meant as a fight or anything just felt it was worth mentioning here games change day to day and keep in mind trion just lost all but maybe ...... maybe 25 of its ppl and all i can say at this point and its not helpful is just watch the forums for a day or two if its radio silence all that time or only 2 or 3 pop ins then yeah get in there and pry hard for answers but right now no one really has anything least of all the ppl that just got blindsided by this yeah it sucks for us but these ppl literally just got pink slips meaning no more income meaning if single parents they are very in peril for funding for their children and homes we aren't exactly at the top of their list right now nor should we be tomorrow yes we should be at the front and given answers or at least by the next day thats my feelings anyway

All of your punctuation seems to have converged in the middle of your paragraph bro, might wanna check on that

Jackalope
10-22-2018, 04:13 PM
Correct. It remains to be seen whether Gamigo/Aeria will be the NA/EU publisher of ArcheAge. There has been no official statement from Trion, XLGames or Gamigo on the matter yet.


Correct, XL would have to approve the publishing rights transfer to gamigo. Something tells me they won't.

Highly interested in where this road leads.

yea I am curious as well what's going to happen there?

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 04:16 PM
Your bank does not initiate communication with you about nothing changing with your service. If you want to submit 100000000000000000 official customer support tickets to research that the game will be here tomorrow, go ahead, because it has been said many times that this forum is not where you receive customer support.

And since you mention that companies are required to communicate to you in advance about things that affect your service, then you must believe that Trion will communicate in advance if anything affects you. Until then, enjoy the uninterrupted game service you are receiving "today".

Thanks, i am enjoying my expected uninterrupted game service i am receiving today. If the company is unable to provide customer service, or at the very least a forum reply in a thread then I expect the company to announce "We currently do not have a customer service or customer representative department employed, we are working to solve this immediately". We both must be a part of that entitlement generation that older gentleman was speaking of, or what generation are you from?

lycanknight
10-22-2018, 04:21 PM
All of your punctuation seems to have converged in the middle of your paragraph bro, might wanna check on that


nope they didn't i didn't add any but thanks for the heads up

Aislinna
10-22-2018, 04:22 PM
Thanks, i am enjoying my expected uninterrupted game service i am receiving today. If the company is unable to provide customer service, or at the very least a forum reply in a thread then I expect the company to announce "We currently do not have a customer service or customer representative department employed, we are working to solve this immediately". We both must be a part of that entitlement generation that older gentleman was speaking of, or what generation are you from?

"logic generation" Please have a customer service representative announce that we do not have customer service representatives. :)

Gizmofx
10-22-2018, 04:24 PM
"logic generation" Please have a customer service representative announce that we do not have customer service representatives. :)

Yea considering an now ex-employee in this forum post specifically mentioned that customer service would resume as is because every company needs a customer service department, yea have those folks announce it for me would ya? Being from the entitlement generation, I simply can not fathom the wait time involved

lycanknight
10-22-2018, 04:40 PM
Yea considering an now ex-employee in this forum post specifically mentioned that customer service would resume as is because every company needs a customer service department, yea have those folks announce it for me would ya? Being from the entitlement generation, I simply can not fathom the wait time involved

she meant that there would be one when everything settled cause they just fired all but maybe 25 of Trion's ppl so there isn't anyone really left there and not all of those 25 ppl worked on AA or at least this is my take on it anyway

Katarina
10-22-2018, 04:43 PM
So am I going to have to login to my Archeage accounts and do a server transfer of all data or something, same thing with Rift?

This really does suck because i'd rather deal with Trion as a USA based company than GAMIGO and their reputation for ruining every game they play including certain games I played published by them years ago during Early Alpha / BETA which were quickly shut down by them.

I'm considering quitting BDO and coming back to Arche Age if good changes are about to be made to the game but really concerned about the whole Gamgio publisher.

TheOuroborus
10-22-2018, 04:45 PM
she meant that there would be one when everything settled cause they just fired all but maybe 25 of Trion's ppl so there isn't anyone really left there and not all of those 25 ppl worked on AA or at least this is my take on it anyway

I put a support ticket in a couple days ago. Let's see if it ever gets answered.

Eilios
10-22-2018, 04:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GIGKYVeNCc

Man, ArcheAge can't win to save itself. Ever since release... yeesh I have wished this game would turn for the better or give the feel alpha gave, but alas, a great game ruined by p2w mechanics and constantly changing the game for the worse.
For the people who lost a job though, good luck on your search (mean that honestly).

Nygau
10-22-2018, 04:51 PM
If.. IF its Gamigo, it might be a bad choice.. altho i cant see that the transaction is with Gamigo.. or i mis-read it.
On the other hand, it might be an improvement, altho i think no one cares and Trion could cash in a substantial amount of cash, and thus that is the only reason why this is happening.

Lets hope whoever is going to publish it, is not going to milk out the game, as most publishers do out there.. else they force us to make a RL nation and blob them xd

Caraanshoa
10-22-2018, 04:56 PM
25 of 200 workers? sorry but its normal, this happens when you do not do your job, bad lucky but htis game in NA/EU dont have salvation R.I.P

lycanknight
10-22-2018, 04:59 PM
If.. IF its Gamigo, it might be a bad choice.. altho i cant see that the transaction is with Gamigo.. or i mis-read it.
On the other hand, it might be an improvement, altho i think no one cares and Trion could cash in a substantial amount of cash, and thus that is the only reason why this is happening.

Lets hope whoever is going to publish it, is not going to milk out the game, as most publishers do out there.. else they force us to make a RL nation and blob them xd

i point you to this below


Duuuuuude, I haven't had TIME to start looking for a job on Twitter and Facebook - my first duty is to my colleagues and players here.
It's all true, Gamigo has purchased Trion, and the transition is underway.

Khrolan and Socke remain, as do a number of top notch AA behind-the-scenes devs.
ArcheAge will carry on as usual, and 5.0 will launch on October 24th, according to plan!

Hang in there guys,
Brasse

Pleasedont
10-22-2018, 05:09 PM
Please stop complaining about it being "Gamigo" this and that.
The transaction has happened, no whining will take it back.
Spitting on the new publishers (Gamigo) is undoubtedly not the best idea..
Play AA, give it time and see what happens. It could either turn out good or bad or feel like nothing has ever changed. But I urge we not talk bad about the new owners because it wont help for shet.
After all, they do have the power to cut ties with XL and just focus on trove :o

lycanknight
10-22-2018, 05:11 PM
Please stop complaining about it being "Gamigo" this and that.
The transaction has happened, no whining will take it back.
Spitting on the new publishers (Gamigo) is undoubtedly not the best idea..
Play AA, give it time and see what happens. It could either turn out good or bad or feel like nothing has ever changed. But I urge we not talk bad about the new owners because it wont help for shet.
After all, they do have the power to cut ties with XL and just focus on trove :o

i agree nothing we can do but sit back wait and watch what unfolds gonna be interesting to see how things either change or stay the same

Wraithunter
10-22-2018, 05:13 PM
I'm already panicking I'm about to jump ship knowing it's "Gamigo" and their p2w is on another level thought it was bad now get ready for hell.


I've looked up Gamigo and it seems that they don't exist on Wikipedia (for whatever reason) but I've checked their website and it seems their games consist of a wide range of Games including online games. I just hope if Gamigo does take over if not only just AA, but the other games like RIFT, Trove, etc wont be affected too badly. And can you go into detail? I am bit curious, how bad is their P2W? Like I mean is it like WoW where you have to PAY to PLAY on that level or? I've never heard of Gamigo, when you hear the word you think of a online game website lol. Speaking of P2W though, I find Nexon (another gaming Heavy P2W company..with everything) is like worse then AA in my opinion and I've played AA for 6 years? 7 years? Riders of Icarus only for like 2 years lol. But anyways, lets try not to panic though..lets all be calm, we also have to wait to see if XL Games would even consider working along side Gamigo, again I never heard of Gamigo and apparently I can't find any Wiki type articles about the company, which is kind of suspicious.

Shinki
10-22-2018, 05:17 PM
I've looked up Gamigo and it seems that they don't exist on Wikipedia (for whatever reason) but I've checked their website and it seems their games consist of a wide range of Games including online games. I just hope if Gamigo does take over if not only just AA, but the other games like RIFT, Trove, etc wont be affected too badly. And can you go into detail? I am bit curious, how bad is their P2W? Like I mean is it like WoW where you have to PAY to PLAY on that level or? I've never heard of Gamigo, when you hear the word you think of a online game website lol. Speaking of P2W though, I find Nexon (another gaming Heavy P2W company..with everything) is like worse then AA in my opinion and I've played AA for 6 years? 7 years? Riders of Icarus only for like 2 years lol. But anyways, lets try not to panic though..lets all be calm, we also have to wait to see if XL Games would even consider working along side Gamigo, again I never heard of Gamigo and apparently I can't find any Wiki type articles about the company, which is kind of suspicious.

Gamigo is Aeriagames.
Aeriagames have destroy like 100 games (not even a joke). (Bless online was on Aeriagames before the rework :lul:)
Think if Archeage moove to Aeriagames we gonna get some BS pack like "200$ GM Service, get the item you want" (no it's not a joke, check aurakingdom etc....)

Lynnara
10-22-2018, 05:18 PM
I am sad. If anyone needs to go, its Khrolan. You're not supposed to keep the guy that was in charge of consistant failures and incompetance for 4 years running. That is just plain stupid. I was actually hopeful for new management when I heard the news. Now I am simply dismayed. Throw out the good folks, keep the garbage that directly caused the massive player loss and multiple merges. Stupid.

Louney
10-22-2018, 05:29 PM
I wish everyone who lost their jobs due to this unfortunate turn of events all the best and good luck for the future! As much as this might suck for all of us players, I can only imagine what it feels like to have to clean your desk just like this. All the best to those who have to leave trion today...
As for the future, I really hope we will get to hear from gamigo very soon about any possible changes to our accounts and the game, because atm I think everyone is going a little crazy since we don't really know what's going on...

Wraithunter
10-22-2018, 05:31 PM
Gamigo is Aeriagames.
Aeriagames have destroy like 100 games (not even a joke). (Bless online was on Aeriagames before the rework :lul:)
Think if Archeage moove to Aeriagames we gonna get some BS pack like "200$ GM Service, get the item you want" (no it's not a joke, check aurakingdom etc....)

Ah, that makes more sense then, I've heard of Aeriagames, kind of makes me laugh that they changed their name. I've also heard Bless Online shut down as well (that explains a lot). I mean when the Prophet of Aknik came out on RIFT they made players pay $200 for a pack that would grant access to the new leveling area, aka lvl 65 -> 70. It was bull, even on PTS, players tested it (including I) and then once it went to live they kicked players out of the new area for a long time, on both live and PTS, (and being on PTS there was NO vile to use to level to 70 just 65. It was nice leveling from 65-70 on the PTS but after that, majority of the players couldn't because it was locked.) only for later down the line they gave out a mini-free pack granting access, which also started to become questional. That's the only time however, that the GM's of RIFT tried to pull something. But yea, I will be open minded, but I don't trust a company that doesn't exist in any Wiki Websites. And seeing how your saying this, and my experiences with games suddenly dying for stupid reasons, yea...I've heard of Aeriagames before, especially on MMOByte.

Wraithunter
10-22-2018, 05:36 PM
I wish everyone who lost their jobs due to this unfortunate turn of events all the best and good luck for the future! As much as this might suck for all of us players, I can only imagine what it feels like to have to clean your desk just like this. All the best to those who have to leave trion today...
As for the future, I really hope we will get to hear from gamigo very soon about any possible changes to our accounts and the game, because atm I think everyone is going a little crazy since we don't really know what's going on...

Yea, people are panicking, I myself isn't, more or less asking questions etc, but yea its always good to think positively, even though its just Socke, Khro and some others, gotta think positively, I am curious myself as to how Gamigo or "Aeriagames" is going to change the games, I hope with some of them, they keep how they are like RIFT. But yea. This whole thing in general just sucks for everyone, and I hate to see a game just go "bye bye" for stupid reasons or greed, etc. (Example Devilian, but again I guess it was kind of out of Trions' hands with good ol' Windows 3D Update...) And yea, I feel really bad for Khro, Socke, as well as majority of them who lost their jobs, loosing your job sucks, no matter what.

exidorr
10-22-2018, 05:42 PM
I am sorry for all those that have lost their jobs and hope they land well on their feet. To all the players that are freaking out and plan on leaving AA because of the buy out: I am sorry to see you leave a game when you don't know whats going to happen next. But, if you are leaving, please let us know where your land is. Many people that arn't in a panic about the unknown will be happy to pick it up from you.

Mangogogo
10-22-2018, 05:46 PM
It depends if Gamigo/Aeria Games allow the game to keep running as usual or make them adopt the GM service selling of rolling the best stats in items model. If you are a pvper, get ready to be envious of cookie cutter top stats items or be jealous of those who get to bypass the RNG to get them while you spent tons of resources to get yours. Think GM service to get perfect rolls of stats, that cloak lower tier stats that has been bugging you? GM service can make it go away. So far so good? Wait till you see $1000 tier to get top tempering via GM services. Whales will be running around with max tempers while normies are stuck at whatever RNG allows.

Gwad I left Aeira Games for Archeage after being fed up with the ever greedy tiered spending, if they bring it back here I am so going to be a sad player all over again.

However, it won't affect scrubs like me unless they nerf use of gold in game to sell more credit items or forces players into pvp zones to get basic stuff.

TmzOS
10-22-2018, 05:50 PM
Gamigo and Aeria are different companies.

Aeria seems to be a subsidiary and probably going to run with the name Gamigo soon. Trion apparently can follow the same fate (or not).

The situation is pretty unexpected, we need to wait.

xydros
10-22-2018, 05:52 PM
XL will still decide what goes into the game. Trion/Gamigo is just the publisher with no rights to the code. It will be interesting to see what changes if any are made especially those suggested for years that Trion told us that XL would never do etc.

Ollolol
10-22-2018, 06:06 PM
For what it's worth, I think you did a good job Brasse.

Hanthos
10-22-2018, 06:17 PM
One has to think that XL would have been involved in any discussions leading up to this, just to make sure that contractual obligations remain upheld. So, either XL is on board for whatever shenanigans await us under the new ownership, or they plan to not renew the contract to allow them to continue publishing the game for NA/EU.

Does anyone know when that agreement is up for renewal?

Hanthos
10-22-2018, 06:20 PM
For what it's worth, I think you did a good job Brasse.

Brasse has been a class act for a long time.

Andromeda Delux
10-22-2018, 06:42 PM
too bad aeria games is prob worse than trion lmao

The last game community I was a part of that got sold to Gamigo was Fiesta Online.

So for point of reference, Gamigo has basically aquired every old game that went down the drain from its original publishers and is now publishing them. The caviet is this though....while the games are pretty much relagated to be in limbo and almost work like private servers, your account and all the stuff you got from the other publishers is still there. I still have my fiesta account from 2007 with all the items trinkets and titles befitting a Legacy character. I look like a Relic.

I will say though, if you're praying that gamigo change the way AA is monetized etc.... you may end up getting that wish. Before when fiesta was with Outspark the game spiraled into such a pay 2 win mess it was disgusting. After the transition it turned slightly less pay to win, and the devs made a bunch of changes to make the game not so heavily reliant on cash shop upgrade trinkets. But its still pretty pay to win now with the only aleviance being with game events and "deals" regarding cash shop items.

But yeah....if your game goes to Gamigo, its pretty much gonna be in limbo....but at least its not offline and completely shut down....yet....one can hope... but uhhhh...christ....I really wish I was waking up to news of the XL devs just selling the entire title to Blizzard or Riot or someone more capable. But with that also being said, you can pretty well be certain that with gamigo the game is also going to have loads of private servers since gamigo has about the worst client and server security in games since 2005. The people that are into privatization won't even need to spoof or emulate anything they'll just snatch the official server layout....

Yikes tho.....just yikes....

Wraithunter
10-22-2018, 06:50 PM
As sad as it is, I wish all of the original Trion Members the best of luck for another Job, Brasse, Quil, Celestrata, Muzzy, Dead Simon, CapnCursor, Salvatrix, and RoughRaptors as well as majority of others. I wish all of you the best of luck and as sad as it is today, I hope, deep down in my heart that everything will be ok, for the Community, for the Devs, everyone. Even though the games have suffered through questionable times and such, just remember though that besides p2w aspects those same games are still fun no matter what, ArcheAge, Devilian, Defiance, Trove, Atlas Reactor, and RIFT. Just know that there is players that still care deeply about these games, including I, I myself hate to see any game slowly go into the void. But there is still faith. So all I can say to the community is have faith, and be positive, even if things do change, know that every community has each other, as well as that every Dev, and ex-Dev have each other as well. When I was a bit younger, one of my dreams was to actually meet a lot of the Devs across majority of the games, including Jake Song himself one day. Still is kind of a small passion to do, even though Quil, Celestrata, Muzzy and Brasse are gone. If I were to come across them IRL, I would congratulate them, and tell them that no matter what happened, to let them know that there is those who still care about them, and what they created. And to know that no matter what the Community will be strong. Even though AA had major issues in the past dating back to 3.0, its still a very fun game, yes there is still problems and questions left and right, but I personally belive that everything that has happened lately, will resolve, I mean, we all think of the worst, but who knows maybe something will change, for the better or good. But being a 7 year member of ArcheAge as well as on the other games such as RIFT, Trove and Devilian, I can say that even if things don't work out, I know for a fact that these games will be close to heart. Not just for me, but for many who still have that love for the game.

Sincerely, Wraith/Slothsforever.

Wraithunter
10-22-2018, 07:02 PM
XL will still decide what goes into the game. Trion/Gamigo is just the publisher with no rights to the code. It will be interesting to see what changes if any are made especially those suggested for years that Trion told us that XL would never do etc.

Question is, is XL Games going to even work with Gamigo? I meaning seeing Aired's video about more info of Gamigo, and I myself hearing from friends and MMOBytes at one point about their Reputation with heavy P2W etc and Bless Online shutting down due to Gamigo just "up and leaving" as a friend put it. I am still not sure why...why would Trion sell it to a company that seems to be worse? That just doesn't make any sense to me.

Fizzeltop
10-22-2018, 07:26 PM
Well all, it has been one amazing ride with AA. I was part of it from the beta and have many happy memories. I only wish that AA could have been sold to a major publisher like Activision / Blizzard where the game could have had new life breathed into it. I don't believe Gamigo is a good pick for the remaining player base. If this game had just gone to a monthly subscription and removed p2w features and made it more of a skill based pvp you'd have had millions of players playing this. It had sooooo much potential, which is now squandered on the ash heaps of cannibalization. That said, I'll reserve judgement on Gamigo. I'm sure there a good people there with a passion for gaming, but if the Gamigo management decides to make this even more p2w or grind it will die faster than it is now. The only way to save AA is to make it competitive and level the playing field so it is skill based. Players will come back for that experience and instead of mergers they would be adding servers. There is no reason this game could not have had a 20 year run if it was managed properly.

WazznMe
10-22-2018, 07:42 PM
It's funny to see ingame, peoples who asked Trion to leave the project, now they are afraid for the future.

You always know what you lose, never what you will get in this change.

I am a player who does not speak much on the forum, I play Archeage from the beginning, this game is not perfect, but none is, I am really sad to see how things evolve. Good luck to the whole team, there are many players in the "shadow" who love and support this game. It is good to clarify it sometimes through all the complaints that have crossed this forum.

Hoping for a positive evolution for the players in this change.

Siller
10-22-2018, 07:52 PM
I saw Shaiya and Last Chaos in their (Gamigo) list. I was shocked, didn't know these games still existed. They were games I heard of during my teenage years. Well I'm still a teenager at heart but that was like so many years ago. It's like we gonna be moved to a museum. :D

Andromeda Delux
10-22-2018, 08:07 PM
Question is, is XL Games going to even work with Gamigo? I meaning seeing Aired's video about more info of Gamigo, and I myself hearing from friends and MMOBytes at one point about their Reputation with heavy P2W etc and Bless Online shutting down due to Gamigo just "up and leaving" as a friend put it. I am still not sure why...why would Trion sell it to a company that seems to be worse? That just doesn't make any sense to me.


The thing is people have to separate Gamigo from Aeria games <-----they are not the same entity. Gamigo is a largely German entity thats existed long before people realized wtf Aeria games even was. Most of what gamigo's goal was to port games over to a larger german audience and get titles into a more international format. Gamigo bought Aeria games. So most if not all of Aerias previous influence is gone from the titles they get during acquisition.

So, just to get people to chill out and stop panicking....Aeria games=/=Gamigo. But Gamigo very much=the last remnants of Aeria games. Now what carries over is another story, but the influence, press, and all that good stuff are handled way differently. Basically, this game will go from feeling like a AAA title during launch, to a dying title but still heavily corporate after launch, to a private server once it reaches Gamigo....which is good and bad. Pick your poison.

hpilgrim
10-22-2018, 09:10 PM
I suffer from chronic pain, and AA is part of my pain management plan, to keep me from taking more opiates than I should. So you could say AA has helped keep me alive the last 5 years. I am pretty sure I'm not the only one who loves this game and uses it to keep diverted and distracted from intractable illness or pain. It's not always "just a game" for many folks.... just my point of view. And I hope the management have considered this...

Thanks to all who have worked to keep the game going.. Brasse, I will miss you, best of luck.
And good luck to all of us who love the game ~

Mauldin
10-22-2018, 09:13 PM
Guess we need a New Producer's Letter

Whaft
10-22-2018, 09:44 PM
Can we unlock the AH since the 5.0 is being delayed. wtf.

Why this sudden news on the eve of 5.0 and then putting the whole thing in flux. Really really bad timing on the part of the new owners

wooglemoogle
10-22-2018, 09:53 PM
Question is, is XL Games going to even work with Gamigo? I meaning seeing Aired's video about more info of Gamigo, and I myself hearing from friends and MMOBytes at one point about their Reputation with heavy P2W etc and Bless Online shutting down due to Gamigo just "up and leaving" as a friend put it. I am still not sure why...why would Trion sell it to a company that seems to be worse? That just doesn't make any sense to me.

Aired is one thing, but take whatever MMOBytes says with heavy, heavy grains of salt. They follow TheLazyPeon way of gaming; they've dug down into a small handful of games, but the rest of their knowledge is heavily based on Googling and secondhand information because they move from game to game so often. Their insight on the industry is basically going to be the same as reading the average Steam review.

But yeah, it could go either way. I've always seen XL Games as a company that wanted to succeed in the NA market (pretty much all their major projects including ArcheAge have aimed at an NA release at some point, even if their mobile games have mainly been KR-targeted). But they've really struggled in the KR market and don't seem to have the bent for modern gaming that a company like Pearl Abyss has that appeals to next-gen gamers. I think trying to "get with the times" has really been XL Games' hardest obstacle and ultimately what keeps their games from really hitting it big.

I guess striking something up with Gamigo would be the best thing for XL since ArcheAge in our region was already more or less on maintenance mode as they focused on KR revamps. But as a player and supporter, I'd like to see them transfer rights to a publisher that they could work more closely with and has the resources to back AA more actively.

Kouyame
10-22-2018, 09:58 PM
I think the worst possible outcome would be the Russian BDO server situation...

THE MOUNTAIN
10-22-2018, 10:01 PM
What people need to realise is that trion was not cashing out in big success but more like declaring bankruptcy with this acquisition.

Assignment for Benefit of Creditors is a liquidation alternative to bankruptcy. Gamingo in their press release defined the purchase in exactly those terms.

AA is on the chopping block due to this transition in ownership. Gamingo already gutted trion which means this was an IP acquisition for them. Xlgames will either be free from any contracts agreed upon by trion or will choose to allow gamingo to host and publish the game. Both are death sentences.

If XL pulls out, AA will shut down until they can find a new publisher (if they even bother). And even if they do, expect them to be brand new servers, where player data will not be restored.

If xl allows gamingo to carry on, expect gamingo to cash out AA as much as possible before shutting it down. The game will be placed on life support (effective immediately) and will only be allowed to exist as long as gamingo sees profits. Once they stop or get too low, servers will shut down. This is what they have done for a decade and have zero issues with doing. See: list of gamingo/aria games retired game library.

From what we can tell, gamingo's primary interest will be with trove. They will do something with trove and bid off any other ips. If they can't sell those ips (like AA) they will simply cash them out.

Either way AA specifically has a death sentence. Only a matter of time before 1 of these 2 options occur. If the first option happens, game shuts down by end of this year. If it's the 2nd option, game shuts down within the next year.

blizplix
10-22-2018, 11:09 PM
I guess XLgames already know, trion is for sell. I guess this is a reason of trion don't have full control of archeage.

Siller
10-22-2018, 11:30 PM
Could this be the reason Celestrata, Muzzy & few other guys left earlier? And I do hope the staffs that were asked to leave (those that had worked past their confirmation phase) to be given their rightful compensation. Seem's like Basse was told to pack up on the very day she know the news? Not sure about Trion's wage policy, it will be extremely harsh to lay off a worker when the year end bonus beckons.

Vario
10-22-2018, 11:37 PM
So slow man understands the whole process.

When Brasse read my question (Roadmapt Contant 2019) to Khrolan in Livestream he said ohh yes that's really good but I'm not allowed to comment on that.

So that's the roadmap with the content 2019 ??

The evolution on NA and EU was not reshaped and it is no coincidence that both have only 1 remastered and 2 legacy servers.

And Jake Song in the summer did not arrive to trion in person otherwise and discuss the future of the game ect. is not a coincidence.

The no events last time were there can also hang together.

And the incredible big marketplace offers last time where people put in a lot of money

Is that supposed to be anything but a coincidence? I think that was planned and prepared for a long time without much information to give out.


It is very sad when it comes to the employees of trion and very much to their jobs.

The question is, how are the players going to continue with the game?) Will this game be in the future?

Did you have an agreement with Xl to publish the game (gamigo)?



We players should worry about our accounts?

How can we still be sure that we will continue?

What guarantee do we have that the servers will not be shut down ect.?

And especially how could we pocket money without knowing what will happen to the game in 2019-2020?

Xhisors
10-23-2018, 12:31 AM
So slow man understands the whole process.

When Brasse read my question (Roadmapt Contant 2019) to Khrolan in Livestream he said ohh yes that's really good but I'm not allowed to comment on that.

So that's the roadmap with the content 2019 ??

The evolution on NA and EU was not reshaped and it is no coincidence that both have only 1 remastered and 2 legacy servers.

And Jake Song in the summer did not arrive to trion in person otherwise and discuss the future of the game ect. is not a coincidence.

The no events last time were there can also hang together.

And the incredible big marketplace offers last time where people put in a lot of money

Is that supposed to be anything but a coincidence? I think that was planned and prepared for a long time without much information to give out.


It is very sad when it comes to the employees of trion and very much to their jobs.

The question is, how are the players going to continue with the game?) Will this game be in the future?

Did you have an agreement with Xl to publish the game (gamigo)?



We players should worry about our accounts?

How can we still be sure that we will continue?

What guarantee do we have that the servers will not be shut down ect.?

And especially how could we pocket money without knowing what will happen to the game in 2019-2020?


Khrolan probaly had zero clue this was going on. He saw XL's roadmap.

Nygau
10-23-2018, 12:43 AM
i point you to this below

Got it ;-).. thanks ;-)

We'll see what happens now then.

Xilix
10-23-2018, 01:25 AM
I'm pretty sure that XL Games knew about the take over before it happened. Some years ago same thing happened with Aion, the data transfer took them 2 full days. The game was split in two, Gameforge taking over the European part and NCSoft keeping the American part. Maybe XL prefers to look for someone else to take their game over maybe they dont, we dont know.

Legally I think that sending out a mail asking if a player agrees with the transfer or not is enough to cover themselves. They delete accounts that dont want to transfer maybe delete inactive accounts without credits on them to get a smaller data base.

As long as I can continue farming potatoes I'm happy.

I wish the best to all the people at Trion that are affected by this take over and hope to meet them later in Archeage, or in another fantasy world driven by potato farmers.

YalTheCat
10-23-2018, 02:28 AM
So, if Trion went down to 25 employees across the entire company in both Redwood City and Austin, who is left working on ArcheAge? Only Khrolan and Socke? Anyone else? Seems like everyone else got canned.

As distressed as I am at the loss of Jobs, and I truly hope all those who have been forced to move on find a place, dropping down 25 is not unexpected.

Of those who left, I would expect most are back office, you know HR, Finance, Legal, Sales, IT Infrastructure (Desktop support), Facilities, Marketing etc.. I would expect those that are left will be IT Operations (keeping the servers up) and Development and Community relations.

Again, Gutted for everyone who had to leave, despite all the moaning people have done on these forums you did a great job...

DeathLives
10-23-2018, 06:04 AM
from what i know about Gamigo they are a German based studio specializing in publishing FTP MMO games, mainly Eastern ones, which doesn't inspire much confidence as those tend to be PTW. So i guess nothing new on that front :P I wander if XL will want to go along with this in the long run, if not then i guess AA is finally dead... I can tell you one thing, Gamigo doesn't like to give compensations in the games they manage once something bad happens so i think the days of us getting compensation for every little thing are over...

Piratezombi3
10-23-2018, 06:40 AM
I suffer from chronic pain, and AA is part of my pain management plan, to keep me from taking more opiates than I should. So you could say AA has helped keep me alive the last 5 years. I am pretty sure I'm not the only one who loves this game and uses it to keep diverted and distracted from intractable illness or pain. It's not always "just a game" for many folks.... just my point of view. And I hope the management have considered this...

Thanks to all who have worked to keep the game going.. Brasse, I will miss you, best of luck.
And good luck to all of us who love the game ~

This... people don't tend to understand these things when they don't have a chronic illness of some kind. I am really hoping that we don't have another NA merge. My illness is why I opted to not partake in one prior. Was forced to do this one. I got lucky and got a plot of land where I wanted it, but cut my land down to 1/3 of what I had... potato life keeps me going in IRL and prevents me from over doing real life... which causes my organs to shut down. But... all the toxic people in this game have seemed to had some kind of negative impact... the community of this game has good people and some of the worst people I've ever talked to. It is a shame that so many people had lost their jobs because of a string of negativity and events.

aquarion
10-23-2018, 08:17 AM
im in the same boat also, i to have chronic illness to which i play AA as my coping mechanism also and if this game does die then im screwed. please don't let AA die i like it to much and i think the latest merge was best think they could of done as there more players to be able to play the events ingame more often where it was dead and it was hard to find group for it.

sJEF
10-23-2018, 08:33 AM
https://corporate.gamigo.com/en/presse/gamigo-ag-acquires-us-publisher-and-game-developer-trion-worlds-inc/

Rinalee
10-23-2018, 08:44 AM
Let's see what happened to Aeria Games once they were bought by gamigo...

https://puu.sh/BPHT1/4023de46d9.png

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Empyreus
10-23-2018, 08:52 AM
I kinda look at those things like metacritic user reviews personally Rinalee. Not that its wrong but there can be a whole WEALTH of information we dont know about said employee ya know?

Dixey
10-23-2018, 09:02 AM
I was right there with you over the chronic pain. This game gave me a semblance of sanity when I was suffering for about a year. I have friends still in that position I play with now. Amazing how many people here are using it to cope with illness.

They dropped everyone right before 5.0. Either they delay 5.0 or they are a very unprofessional organization. Who still has tickets for items missing in inventory? Have they dealt at all with people holding land when others are looking for it? I basically can't do Mistmerrow anymore due to lag.

I wonder if AFK kick is going to remain. It is the perfect foil to those who don't pay for patron. I expect to see more sales to generate cash to offset whatever assets are losing money. If this is losing money I don't expect it to last long at all.

If we stay alive it is due to XL keeping content afloat. It doesn't look like they will have the professional feedback needed to stay on top of what is affecting their NA or EU player bases.

Gamigo has a hell of a lot of work to do if they want to keep paying customers on board. They need to communicate, and communicate, and communicate. And they better not blow smoke at us as a lack of trust will have us withholding our money. I am already game shopping in anticipation of their response based on their reputation in the gaming community.

Venisa
10-23-2018, 10:11 AM
I was right there with you over the chronic pain. This game gave me a semblance of sanity when I was suffering for about a year. I have friends still in that position I play with now. Amazing how many people here are using it to cope with illness.

They dropped everyone right before 5.0. Either they delay 5.0 or they are a very unprofessional organization. Who still has tickets for items missing in inventory? Have they dealt at all with people holding land when others are looking for it? I basically can't do Mistmerrow anymore due to lag.

I wonder if AFK kick is going to remain. It is the perfect foil to those who don't pay for patron. I expect to see more sales to generate cash to offset whatever assets are losing money. If this is losing money I don't expect it to last long at all.

If we stay alive it is due to XL keeping content afloat. It doesn't look like they will have the professional feedback needed to stay on top of what is affecting their NA or EU player bases.

Gamigo has a hell of a lot of work to do if they want to keep paying customers on board. They need to communicate, and communicate, and communicate. And they better not blow smoke at us as a lack of trust will have us withholding our money. I am already game shopping in anticipation of their response based on their reputation in the gaming community.

Fully agree that they have to be on top of things. If they want money, they *need* to uncensor all the costumes and make it 1:1 on bringing over costumes and other cool stuff that XL makes, no more games. They need to make actual improvements and help the playerbase out, stop making it so expensive to progress sometimes. I understand it's a cash cow so I get it if they don't un-P2W it all, but... for players that can't swipe all the time I think that making things a bit easier every now and then would be appropriate, kind of like how they kept raising the minimum gear cap.

Though I wish we had a far larger population so that never had to happen. It's cool to have people who are far weaker and people who are far stronger and they can all interact with their own gear levels, it makes everything far more meaningful. So my preference would be to given more opportunity, not handouts.

Suntzu
10-23-2018, 11:21 AM
No news is good news however we would appreciate an update on 5.0 @Khrolan. #TrionJobs

Maligant
10-23-2018, 11:44 AM
No news is good news however we would appreciate an update on 5.0 @Khrolan. #TrionJobs

Unfortunately this is not necessarily true. No news is likely due to them all being holed up in meetings all day. There is a lot of transitioning going on today, reorganization, etc. There is also a lot of information-dumping going on. There probaby will be a significant increase in changes yet to come.

Keep in mind, Khrolan now works for Gamigo, not Trion. Therefore he will only be able to post here when he is told he can do so.

Personally, I don't know what to expect. I just came back to the game, but I'm already looking into other options as I am getting the feeling that Gamigo would at least have posted an introductory, non-detailed message by now. Silence breeds restlessness. Not exactly what this game needs at this point.

Finally, bring back Quillodon!

Dixey
10-23-2018, 11:46 AM
I think no news is a debate behind the scenes as to whether or not there are resources for 5.0 to go live this week.

I know the users are anxious. Some are taking Brasse's statement to mean the remaining servers are merging with 5.0, so hell 2.0 for those of us who just went through a land rush with fewer spots to compete for. I took it that merger was first part of evolution and 5.0 was second. I can't imagine doing that to your user base if you want to keep making money.

Updates welcome even if discussions are still underway, and announcement due in X hours.

dumbo
10-23-2018, 11:56 AM
As distressed as I am at the loss of Jobs, and I truly hope all those who have been forced to move on find a place, dropping down 25 is not unexpected.

Of those who left, I would expect most are back office, you know HR, Finance, Legal, Sales, IT Infrastructure (Desktop support), Facilities, Marketing etc.. I would expect those that are left will be IT Operations (keeping the servers up) and Development and Community relations.

Again, Gutted for everyone who had to leave, despite all the moaning people have done on these forums you did a great job...

just a clarification. They didn't drop 25 jobs. They dropped from 200 jobs down to 25 jobs.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/329119/Report_Significant_layoffs_at_Trion_Worlds_followi ng_acquisition_by_Gamigo.php

TheOuroborus
10-23-2018, 12:04 PM
I'm very disappointed in the lack of professionalism in ALL parties involved with this news.

Suntzu
10-23-2018, 12:07 PM
Some are taking Brasse's statement to mean the remaining servers are merging with 5.0, so hell 2.0 for those of us who just went through a land rush with fewer spots to compete for.


Servers are not merging again at 5.0, that was an internal meme from a certain guild on Kadum, and it was not intended to go public.

Andromeda Delux
10-23-2018, 01:12 PM
Let's see what happened to Aeria Games once they were bought by gamigo...

https://puu.sh/BPHT1/4023de46d9.png

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Why would an employee for a german company give their review in english?

xydros
10-23-2018, 01:17 PM
Why would an ex employee want to burn every bridge in the industry going forward if identified? Looks like Fake news.

Shappy
10-23-2018, 01:46 PM
So what's the latest on 5.0? Its not like its coming extremely soon or anything...

Apricot
10-23-2018, 02:05 PM
just a clarification. They didn't drop 25 jobs. They dropped from 200 jobs down to 25 jobs.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/329119/Report_Significant_layoffs_at_Trion_Worlds_followi ng_acquisition_by_Gamigo.php

An update from the article you quoted:

Update: A source close to the matter has said that roughly 25 employees remain at each studio, indicating that around 50 remain at Trion overall and over 150 were affected by the layoffs altogether.

neoVictrix
10-23-2018, 02:06 PM
Why would an ex employee want to burn every bridge in the industry going forward if identified? Looks like Fake news.

At most another disgruntled customer akin to those that review-bomb games for one little thing they don't like.



So what's the latest on 5.0? Its not like its coming extremely soon or anything...

From BigDataDude on the Omnom discord: As of right now I am planning on 5.0 starting tonight because I have not been told otherwise.

Neytiriirityen
10-23-2018, 03:43 PM
You hang in there you will land on your feet into something as good if not better.

Neytiriirityen
10-23-2018, 03:49 PM
Duuuuuude, I haven't had TIME to start looking for a job on Twitter and Facebook - my first duty is to my colleagues and players here.
It's all true, Gamigo has purchased Trion, and the transition is underway.

Khrolan and Socke remain, as do a number of top notch AA behind-the-scenes devs.
ArcheAge will carry on as usual, and 5.0 will launch on October 24th, according to plan!

Hang in there guys,
Brasse

You hang in there you will land on your feet into something as good if not better.

TheOuroborus
10-23-2018, 03:59 PM
An update from the article you quoted:

Update: A source close to the matter has said that roughly 25 employees remain at each studio, indicating that around 50 remain at Trion overall and over 150 were affected by the layoffs altogether.

Oh, well gosh... that's makes it all better. No need to worry anymore. All is wonderful in the world now that you've corrected the layoff estimate. Well done.

TheOuroborus
10-23-2018, 04:01 PM
No news from Trion, XL, any game director, or Gamigo tells me that whatever the outcome is going to be regarding the fate of AA's publishing rights is NOT going to be good news for the players.

Stalker
10-23-2018, 04:11 PM
what about the live stream for the free costume? please don't tell me I linked my twitch to glyph for no reason LOL!!!!!!!

Khrolan
10-23-2018, 04:47 PM
All,

The remaining members of the team and I have received offers and are currently in the process of signing on with Gamigo Group. I don’t have details around how long the process will take but remain committed to providing daily updates with information as I receive it.

The Relics of Hiram 5.0 update is currently postponed from its original release date in North America and Europe. This delay is result of the business transaction; unfortunately a new release date has yet to be identified but all parties involved are moving as swiftly as possible.

Our current focus is to ensure live servers remain available for play. Thanks for your support.

@Justaguy, thanks for updating the top of the post.

-Khro

Nygau
10-23-2018, 04:52 PM
We knew.

But what hurts most is that you knew this weeks or even months ago, you still provided us with a official date for 5.0 and on the last moment you announce its delayed.
So many ppl waiting for this, you should actually do whatever you can to make sure the update is coming.. and not wave us out again with a new release date has yet to be identified.

So this is probs going to take months again.

Furthermore i really hope you made the right move with Gamigo.. and wish you all the best for the future.

trumpetblower
10-23-2018, 04:52 PM
FIX the AH THEN RIGHT NOW PLEASE.

Shaiye
10-23-2018, 04:53 PM
The Relics of Hiram 5.0 update is currently postponed

What about the Auction House?

TruthtellerForever
10-23-2018, 04:54 PM
Thank you for providing the update.

Could you unlock the AH now? :)

Nygau
10-23-2018, 04:55 PM
FIX the AH THEN RIGHT NOW PLEASE.

And that too.. why close it?.. you knew Kro.. you knew that it was delayed.. this is not from just now.
You knew about this transaction months ago, hence why celestrata and muzzy had to leave.. why even bother giving us a update that was delayed from the start?.. such transactions dont go over night with multiple parties included..

Muido
10-23-2018, 04:59 PM
We knew.

But what hurts most is that you knew this weeks or even months ago, you still provided us with a official date for 5.0 and on the last moment you announce its delayed.
So many ppl waiting for this, you should actually do whatever you can to make sure the update is coming.. and not wave us out again with a new release date has yet to be identified.

So this is probs going to take months again.

Furthermore i really hope you made the right move with Gamigo.. and wish you all the best for the future.

Most of the trion office got just fired. I higly doubt anyone beside the CEO and some others knew about this.
Seems like everything was on time, thats why they posted an release date for 5.0 and then the transition was announced. What hurts the most is, that people who are not in charge for any of Trions mistakes lost their job.

Boop 1
10-23-2018, 05:01 PM
All,

The remaining members of the team and I have received offers and are currently in the process of signing on with Gamigo Group. I don’t have details around how long the process will take but remain committed to providing daily updates with information as I receive it.

The Relics of Hiram 5.0 update is currently postponed from its original release date in North America and Europe. This delay is result of the business transaction; unfortunately a new release date has yet to be identified but all parties involved are moving as swiftly as possible.

Our current focus is to ensure live servers remain available for play. Thanks for your support.

@Justaguy, thanks for updating the top of the post.

-Khro



Please fix Auction House until then :) And are we still going down for 3 days?

Nygau
10-23-2018, 05:04 PM
Most of the trion office got just fired. I higly doubt anyone beside the CEO and some others knew about this.
Seems like everything was on time, thats why they posted an release date for 5.0 and then the transition was announced. What hurts the most is, that people who are not in charge for any of Trions mistakes lost their job.

Ofc.. very sad. i never wish anybody such drama.. but im sure ppl knew, such things has an impact on every aspect of a company.. I wont believe it was all silent ;-)

Nevertheless.. i wish all the best for Trion employees..

firefly
10-23-2018, 05:05 PM
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All,



Our current focus is to ensure live servers remain available for play. Thanks for your support.


-Khro *

Nygau
10-23-2018, 05:07 PM
I mean.. read this tweet

https://twitter.com/Sera_Brennan/status/1054460653308702726?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1054460653308702726&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmassivelyop.com%2F2018%2F10% 2F22%2Ftrion-worlds-has-been-sold-to-gamigo-and-yes-there-have-been-more-layoffs%2F

She actually says.. (if you scroll down)
No no, I've been out of Trion for 2 months now. Was let go in the first round. Doing my own thing now while looking for new opportunities.
- First round?
- 2 months ago

They knew.

TruthtellerForever
10-23-2018, 05:09 PM
I mean.. read this tweet

https://twitter.com/Sera_Brennan/status/1054460653308702726?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1054460653308702726&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmassivelyop.com%2F2018%2F10% 2F22%2Ftrion-worlds-has-been-sold-to-gamigo-and-yes-there-have-been-more-layoffs%2F

She actually says.. (if you scroll down)
No no, I've been out of Trion for 2 months now. Was let go in the first round. Doing my own thing now while looking for new opportunities.
- First round?
- 2 months ago

They knew.

Hi! You're an idiot. All the best.

Minzyy
10-23-2018, 05:09 PM
What about the evo compenstation we are promised in 5.0? are we gonna have to wait longer for that?