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Magellan
09-03-2019, 02:07 AM
Greetings, I would like to know your opinions about healer classes that are good for pve dungeons and have a decent pvp dps, thanks!

sobin
09-04-2019, 11:42 AM
Any vitalism class can heal dungeons. Songcraft + vitalism is probably best for that, add in shadowplay and you get instant antithesis. Auramancy, adds a metric ♥♥♥♥ton of survivability in PvP (this gets nerfed though). Witchcraft is pretty cool for some renewal.

Matte0
09-18-2019, 12:11 PM
Don't forget about the Vitalism Occultism combo. Using Pain Harvest for multiple main casts keeps groups up against the heaviest hitters and you can sneak some personal CC into PVP too.

SFRSinder
09-18-2019, 03:20 PM
Bloodthrall is very good at farming PVE and can be good for PVP as well Battlerage Songcraft Vitalism

andrelb
11-08-2019, 08:27 AM
How would be the stats and armor for that? str or spirt?

andrelb
11-08-2019, 08:55 AM
Bloodthrall is very good at farming PVE and can be good for PVP as well Battlerage Songcraft Vitalism

How would be the stats and armor for that? str or spirt?

sobin
11-09-2019, 10:05 AM
How would be the stats and armor for that? str or spirt?

Either farm as a melee or farm as a healer. Splitting your stats is always bad.

Fidoishere
11-12-2019, 03:09 PM
Either farm as a melee or farm as a healer. Splitting your stats is always bad.

Actually. They'd just have to choose their primary stat and make use of the other class trees as needed for their build.

Bloodthrall is essentially Argent but just with different utility. Otherwise you can make a Burst healer with some buffs then damage or a buff healer with some bursts then damage.

Your battlerage skills won't be that strong if you build for more healer based bloodthrall otherwise it's vice versa here depending on your needs.

So Yes this class is functional. BUT! Just like sobin said don't split your stats pools. you want either or to be functional for end game.

I will say heals are heals it helps with mitigation a bit and having back up heals to save yourself or others while being a DD is pretty handy. Won't be as strong. But that's what some zeal procs are for lol.

Beatrisha
11-13-2019, 07:47 AM
In the end you'll have to create your own build depending on where you want to fight and what skills and playstyle do you prefer.

For PvE you need Vitalism and Songcraft. In many cases you'll find yourself just playing songs and using basic heals.
Third skillset needs to be something that keeps you mobile to get out of some enemy skills. That means Auramancy or Shadowplay. Auramancy is more defense focused, shadowplay is more for assassin playstyle (getting in/out, sneaking away).
However since in group PvE most of your points will be in Vitalism and Songcraft, Shadowplay sounds like better choice for Dropback combo with either Antithesis or Mend.

Now if you want to grind solo, that's different story. You'll hear three opinions on that. First group of ppl will tell you to just go melee. Second will tell you to use single target skills, mainly Holy Bolt. Third group (that would be me) prefers AoE farming.
For single target you mainly need Vitalism and sustain in form of Auramancy.
For AoE farming probably best is Vitalism, Auramancy, Occultism. My favorite combo is Vicious Implosion, Hell Spear, triple Skewer and finish with damaging Antithesis. You'll have continuous heal from Resurgence and some defense from Thwart for stronger enemies. This build is also viable for PvP but only if your gear is good enough to be also tank. Then Occultism debuffs when your allies don't need healing can be pretty useful. But I don't recommend that if it's small scale PvP or/and you're main healer.

When it comes to PvP it depends on what type. It can be small scale (5v5), ganks (2vX), large scale (50v50) or something completely different. You'll need to understand what your role is and create build according to that.
If it's large scale and there are 10 more healers, few will focus on songcraft skills while others will do Vitalism heals and usually there is one or two healers that focus on healing only tank. When you don't have specific roles (meaning other people do, not that raid is unorganized), it's not bad idea to take Occultism for debuffs, but remember that without gear you might be too squishy for that.
In case of smaller PvP, it depends on your party. You take different skills if you have tank and if you have only glass cannons.
If you know, your tank will be focused, you need to support him. Songcraft and Auramancy for defense buffs after stacking several heals on him can make tank unkillable. On the other hand when you know you'll be the main target, Vitalism, Shadowplay and Auramancy might be the choice. You can hop to person who needs heals (yes, archers love to run away from their healer) but you can also buff yourself with some defense and give your glass cannons time to kill enemies.