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TheBorg
09-27-2014, 02:30 AM
(Note: Work in Progress)
Hello Kyprosa!

I personally would like to wish that this service is not required, but as it stands Kyprosa requires a few secure trading outlets.

My name is Borg and I will be your third party trader for today.
I'm setting up this option for people to go with if they feel insecure about the land purchase they are planning on doing.


Procedure:
If a buyer & Seller agree to make use of a third party service, either of the party contacts me over whisper (/whisper Borg), the forums. Or any other communication method that might be available.
From there we will decide a time to do the transaction. During the transaction I will invite both seller and Buyer to a party.
Once at the location, the buyer hands me the coins for the transaction. I verify to the seller that the money is and he can start with his side of the transaction.
The seller then removes his house/farm/item and the buyer places it. The buyer then receives the agreed upon amount for the transaction.


FAQ
Why would I trust you?
I have already setup a trustworthy service within the Casino, bets which consist out of several 100's of gold.
Found here (http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?75280-Borg-s-Casino-%28EAST%29)

What is your goal?
Preferably make Kyprosa such a friendly place that my services are no longer required.

What are your prices?
Between 5% of the transaction fee


Plots for sale (Contact me ingame or over the forums)



Vouches for quality service
Melancholy - Unrest -- http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?70440-Borg-s-Housing-amp-third-Party-trading-Service-%28EAST%29/page3

Ollerus
09-27-2014, 03:59 AM
Note to anyone looking at this, don't do it. If you want to buy land from someone have them use an appraisal certificate on it which bypasses actually trading the person and then trusting that they will remove it. Scams like this guy is trying to pull are all to common and easy, just don't be dumbasses. Use the tools provided by the game.

Once someone uses an appraisal certificate on their land it then becomes buy able via walking up to it, interacting and pressing the "purchase" button, it will automatically become yours. You the get a mail for taxes to pay.

Nothingtoseehere
09-27-2014, 04:02 AM
Note to anyone looking at this, don't do it. If you want to buy land from someone have them use an appraisal certificate on it which bypasses actually trading the person and then trusting that they will remove it. Scams like this guy is trying to pull are all to common and easy, just don't be dumbasses. Use the tools provided by the game.

Once someone uses an appraisal certificate on their land it then becomes buy able via walking up to it, interacting and pressing the "purchase" button, it will automatically become yours. You the get a mail for taxes to pay.

What he said^

Malvious
09-27-2014, 04:38 AM
Probably the same guy that scammed loads of people before just under a new account.

Nothingtoseehere
09-27-2014, 04:43 AM
Probably the same guy that scammed loads of people before just under a new account.

Buckwald you mean?

Malvious
09-27-2014, 04:44 AM
Buckwald you mean?

ah yeah that was his name!

WNxRip
09-27-2014, 08:44 AM
2 things.

Borg is not a remade account of that other scammer guy, I can confirm that.

He's offering to do it for free, as in he won't charge ANY gold at all. In what universe is that a scam? Scamming would involve taking money from someone and not delivering, in this case he would NOT be taking money and then giving a plot if he has one.

I mean what he seems to be setting up is him being a broker for holding the gold in a housing transaction, if the housing owner refuses to then demolish the house then the buyer would get the money back, I do understand the mistrust from people buying land as scamming in that way is allowed however I don't think thats Borgs intent.

In other news Borg, you'll have to tell me how much that guy wants for the 16x16 in ynystere :P

Skulkesyk
09-27-2014, 10:00 AM
Note to anyone looking at this, don't do it. If you want to buy land from someone have them use an appraisal certificate on it which bypasses actually trading the person and then trusting that they will remove it. Scams like this guy is trying to pull are all to common and easy, just don't be dumbasses. Use the tools provided by the game.

Once someone uses an appraisal certificate on their land it then becomes buy able via walking up to it, interacting and pressing the "purchase" button, it will automatically become yours. You the get a mail for taxes to pay.

this this and this!

Ceolus
09-27-2014, 01:18 PM
2 things.

Borg is not a remade account of that other scammer guy, I can confirm that.

He's offering to do it for free, as in he won't charge ANY gold at all. In what universe is that a scam? Scamming would involve taking money from someone and not delivering, in this case he would NOT be taking money and then giving a plot if he has one.P

How does it beig free mean it can in no way be a scam?
The fact that he doesn't ask for a payment makes it even more fishy. Because he holds the money in a step of the transaction totally sets you up for a scam.

TheBorg
09-27-2014, 01:41 PM
My general thoughts about this:
My intentions are only just, but if no-one cares or trusts anyone we won't see any progress.
If in the meanwhile, reports still stream in for scammers, there is seemingly a need for this service.

http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?70910-Notice-to-all-Kyprosa-players-quot-The-Black-Paw-quot-guild-scammer-player-quot-Avo-quot

Services like these will always require a startup, thats the hardest part of setting up a "trustworthy name".
If you have any suggestions for me to do this I'll be gladly willing to do some effort into it. But so far I see it, setting up a successful trade is the main way to do it.

TheBorg
09-28-2014, 03:59 PM
Sold the mahadevi & Yny housing.
I now have some housing for Arcum Iris.

Ollerus
09-28-2014, 04:04 PM
I was just saying that the service shouldn't be necessary or used since they have something already in game that requires no trust.

Ollerus
09-28-2014, 04:07 PM
But I know what you mean, I craft weapons for people and they have to trust that I won't just run off with their materials.

(someone thought I was a scammer today for offering 70k carpentry services in faction chat because they thought 50k was still the max lol.)

TheBorg
09-28-2014, 04:18 PM
But I know what you mean, I craft weapons for people and they have to trust that I won't just run off with their materials.

(someone thought I was a scammer today for offering 70k carpentry services in faction chat because they thought 50k was still the max lol.)

Na you are completely right.

The flaw in the system is that the area's sold are the area's someone just placed a schematic on. I haven't seen anyone sell a finished location, unless its an alt selling the 16X16 farm area.
It should work fine if the Appraisal also takes non-build houses.
That kills the hole in the market and diminishes the cost to about 20G.
Now if you also want to build the house and then appraisal is its at least 50g if not a little more. Thats costs people might want to cut.

Ollerus
09-28-2014, 04:43 PM
I see what you mean, I personally (if I were buying a spot with an unfinished house) would ask them to build and appraise it, and have them raise the agreed upon price by however much the materials cost.

But I could see how people would want to cut that price out with how tight gold is.

Socratic
09-28-2014, 10:21 PM
2 things.

Borg is not a remade account of that other scammer guy, I can confirm that.
Confirm it then. We're waiting.

Milkahasi
09-29-2014, 01:59 AM
Hi

Today i buy´d an 16 x 16 Place from Borg, i payed first and all works fine, so i can say he is an trustfully player

Mfg

TheBorg
09-30-2014, 09:24 AM
Hi

Today i buy´d an 16 x 16 Place from Borg, i payed first and all works fine, so i can say he is an trustfully player

Mfg

Sold the land I had available. Will update when there is more.


I still notice allot of people getting scammed when attempting to buy land etc. If you need any help or info on land prices and potential sellers on the east continent feel free to send me a whisper too :).

TheBorg
10-10-2014, 10:20 AM
Quick update for a successful 3rd Party transaction :)

Screenshots found here:

http://imgur.com/a/t71QV

Chikuma
10-10-2014, 12:41 PM
The one person, out of all random peeps i see in Kyprosa... Borg is the one i trust. o.o

Melancholy
10-10-2014, 03:20 PM
I was just saying that the service shouldn't be necessary or used since they have something already in game that requires no trust.

In our case we were just interested in the spot and the seller was interested in keeping the design for his unbuilt house. The 100% safe way would have been an appraisal trade but the costs and effort would have been beyond sanity. Thanks to Borg we could set up a trade with conditions that both sides could agree to. I appreciate his service and just in case you find yourself in a similar situation like us, that service might be worth considering to avoid absurd costs connected to the nature of appraisal trades. I didn't know about Borg before the Casino thingy and all can say is I've seen people trade hundreds and thousands of gold to him, I did it myself and he never scammed anything.

Thanks for the help, Borg.

/vouch

Rajr
10-11-2014, 04:29 AM
Borg is legit. I can vouch for him any day.

TheBorg
10-13-2014, 10:16 AM
New successful Trade ;)

Here (http://imgur.com/a/CzIF8)

Ceolus
10-15-2014, 11:38 AM
This service is legit, unlike all the other trading service scams. Sorry for questioning your intentions!

TheBorg
10-16-2014, 06:11 AM
This service is legit, unlike all the other trading service scams. Sorry for questioning your intentions!

No worries ^^
I completely understand where you are coming from, definitely in a game like this.

Reax
10-16-2014, 09:03 AM
Thread Bump. trustworthy guy.

TheBorg
10-16-2014, 02:09 PM
Updated my own housing listing

Offering
2X 16x16 Farms next to each other in Rookborn
And
1X 16X16 Farm In Ynystere

Ditzy Clouds
10-23-2014, 01:53 PM
Nice and smooth trade. Completly trustworthy

Shynras
10-25-2014, 04:05 PM
Thanks to Borg today, i bought 2x 16x16, and sold 1, saving a lot of certs. You MUST trust him!

TheBorg
10-28-2014, 01:26 PM
Updated fee, I will now always charge a 5% fee over the total transaction amount. This allows some clarity in the pricing instead of the previous 1% to 10% option I had.

empege
11-01-2014, 08:09 AM
The best deal ever,100% professional.

I can vouch for him any day.

Ferniya
11-01-2014, 09:57 AM
Perfect service in every way.

10/10!

Deleius
11-05-2014, 11:05 AM
I bought a 16x16 spot with Borg as middleman. Procedure went as described in the first thread-post. Absolutely trustworthy.

/bump

Cherity
11-13-2014, 09:48 AM
I bought a 24x24 farmhouse via Borgs Service. 100% trustworthy, Thumbs up :)