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Thread: Leader of IRONCLAD and Delph bow DRAMA

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    Leader of IRONCLAD and Delph bow DRAMA

    So in the guild of Ironclad Sylken (who has now quit playing) was crafting for our guild as the guild carpenter. He made bows and was to make me a staff as I donated 100 lumber and OVER 200 Sunlight crystals, then several shards, dusts, and motes. I was promised a very nice staff for the donation by Rybo the current GL at that time. It was about a month later still no staff and Sylken was selling sunlight stuff and I talked to Jaybe as I was a bit upset I had not gotten my staff. Anyways the whole thing got talked about and all was good. But Sylken was quitting the game and since he couldn't get me a staff he gave me his Unique Delph Gale Bow.

    I am a caster and had no use for this bow. Well at the same time Rybo was "taking a break" from the game so he gave Jaybe GL. Jaybe wanted the bow and asked me for a deal. So I told him I wanted a Delph staff with Intellect on it for the Delph bow. In the meantime Jaybe wanted to borrow the bow so he could up his stats on his dps or whatever. He promised he would not screw me over promised that he would get me what I wanted.

    Well I already had my carpentry up to 50k at that point so I told Jaybe get me the mats and I'll craft then we should be able to do it this way and all failures go back to you. Jaybe agreed to this plan. In about a month he was only able to collect the mats for 2 staffs that went to Magnificent. My staff I already had was a Heroic Mag Meadow staff and Jaybe told me lets salvage all 3 for a go to Eph because by this time my carpentry was up to 90k. (When I crafted the other 2 staffs Jaybe never paid me for my labor that went into this process. Jaybe also told Sirdidymus in our guild that he spent 10k in mats on the 2 staffs but is now saying he spent 18k in mats for 2 mag staffs.) Well he gave me the 2 mag staffs previously crafted and I took mine and asked Brohemian if he knew anyone with high enough machining to salvage 3 staffs. So he hooked me up with Binder from Marina Merchants who salvaged the 3 staffs worth 500 labor and I paid him 50g for his labor.

    The RNG God smiled on me for a brief moment and it went ocean. So I told Jaybe that it went ocean then he got the mats for crafting up to Eph. RNG was an jerk and it went earth. I then gave the staff back to Jaybe (because it wasn't mine) and he spent 3k he told me to regrade the staff and has yet been able to sell it.

    Well in the meantime I had no staff and Jaybe had promised if the staff didn't go that he would buy me one to use until we got the Delph. Jaybe then refused to buy me any staff at first. Then I told him Fine get me and Eph staff that was on the AH for 6k at the time plus 2k and that'll do (I needed a weapon for the siege that Sunday since I was weaponless.) Jaybe said no not until after the siege. Then he offered to buy me the same staff I had salvaged same grade everything until after Sunday. I agreed, still NO STAFF.

    I did have the money to get a illustrious staff, that I crafted but my DPS was bad and I couldn't do the farming I needed to. So I became pissed and sold off the guild house that I had paid for with 500 gilda, that I had farmed for with NO help from Jaybe, (and about 10% help from a few guildies) 45 lumber packs, 10 Iron, and 15 stone that was filled with all the work benches and a few specialty ones (the 20k vocation cert ones). Plus I had 2 TST sitting in my bank I chopped them up sold the logs, and a bunch of other misc stuff I had in my inventory.

    I managed to get enough for a blue conqueror's staff and the mats to craft to Illustrious, RNG shone down on me again OCEAN, so I got the mats for mag *crossed my fingers* and RNG loved me some more OCEAN, so I got the mats for Eph.....and PRAISE RNG OCEAN, got the mats for Delph and it went Earth (but I am using it for now). Jaybe did give me 1k gold to get 3 sunlight essences towards the Delph.
    So I told him pretty much we don't have any of the same deals anymore you didn't get me my Delph staff with Int on it. Jaybe then said okay I'll reimburse you for the mats and I told him no because I used my own money (mostly) and you weren't going to even get me a staff at all so I would have been able to participate in the seige so I did it my self. I either want 20k gold or the bow back. Jaybe then told me I'll pay you 10k gold and I told him no if that's it I want the bow back.

    Jaybe refused to give me the bow back and has now decided he will only pay 7k for the bow. He gave me a plate lord coin costume to sell for 5k worth of the gold (that's what he said it's worth). And said once the Eph staff sells he will pay me 2k gold.

    I am Anastasia in game and I gave the castle to Ironclad that was once owned by Pornstars....Jaybe gave me a portion 60% for that peace fund that he now says is payment for the castle (that was the Pornstars peace fund), I also gave him 3kg worth of blood archeum crystals (when I was prepping for a siege while GL of PS and 2500g worth of siege ammo to tear down the walls so that the castle could be handed off to Ironclad, and last but not least a 300 gilda manor for a house as a hearth point in the castle for the guild).

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    To clear up any wall of confusion from the original post and get down to brass tax.

    The leader of Ironclad was originally Rybo. Ironclad had gone on to absorb multiple guilds to become the mediocre "powerhouse" it is today. The guild itself was more of a casual "fun" guild that had a wild mix of crafters/farmers with a small unit of actual pvp/pve players. Generally an older aged type guild.

    When Ironclad had attained the castle it was given to them by Anastasia, the newest leader of PornStars. PornStars had combined forces with Ironclad and it actually turned into a decent sized guild. (Although our server is not as populated as it once was, Ironclad had a steady 60-80 active online at all times) . The Peace fund was split after the castle was absorbed by Ironclad and she was sure to distribute it out to her former guild officers and make good with everyone in her group. THen the whole FTV alliance thing happened and blah blah blah you know the story.

    I'm sure you are all aware of Jaybe, the current leader of Ironclad. THE MASTERMIND BEHIND THE CASTLE SIEGE (Ronin you guys have no ♥♥♥♥ing clue how wrong you were). Rybo had to deal with real life issues and decided to hand off the leadership to his good pal Jaybe. Jaybe was not a very good player at the game, and a majority of the guild basically had him muted in the guild teamspeak (annoying, loud, very young etc). When news broke that Rybo may be passing the lead to Jaybe the majority of the guild felt unsettled. Many threatened to leave the guild (some actually did) and many were not content with the new direction of the guild.

    Anastasia was a very supportive player throughout the whole situation. At first the PornStars group wasn't really blending in well with the Ironclad group but eventually that all changed. Anastasia helped many players in the new guild with anything they needed. Whether it was mats, taxes, lord coin costumes, housing, etc she helped do it. She donated huge amounts of gold to the destruction and reconstruction of the new castle walls (which was an absolutely wretched design that jaybe had created. WE had 1 staircase and 1 wall right next to the stone). She gave Jaybe a Manor, she set up and paid the taxes for the crafting stations outside of the castle. She had also donated many materials to the "guilds bow master!", which was a BRILLIANT idea rybo and jaybe came up with to donate all the sunlight archeum we could to 1 guy so he could dish out bows to everyone! (yeah that guy quit and 99% of the guild does not have a delphinad bow). The delphinad bow that was created was rightfully anastasia's. It was a delphinad gale bow (on the Ezi ah we could take a shot and say its in the range of 40K+ worth). The bow was lent out multiple times to 2 of the officers in the guild + anastasia. It was more or less the "Guilds bow" when in reality it was Anastasia's. Anastasia had already blown up over the bow ordeal before and was told that she would receive the bow.

    Jaybe decided he wasn't going to lend that bow out anymore. . Jaybe had no intention of ever returning it to her. (Most likely because hes probably within the 10% of the worst PVPers of the guild) and wants the power. Yes he did help her craft 2 magnificent staves, and then gave her the mats to bump it up to eph. (which arent worth close to what that bow was worth) and has now offered her 7k flat gold to keep the bow. All she wants is what she is owed and she did not receive it.

    Jaybe was handed everything. A castle, a full guild, that flaming horse, and the title of MASTERMIND (You weren't playing chess, you were playing connect 4. We lost that fight 5 minutes into the siege. Without the assistance of fury we didnt stand a chance). Jaybe did not earn anything that he has and now he wants to take the one thing that 100% does not belong to him. Maybe he's power hungry? Maybe he wants to suck savage off? Who knows.

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    Do not ever trust anyone with a delph weapon... Not unless you know them IRL..
    You should have waited till he got the staff to trade with your bow.. The bow is worth a lot and he only gave you promises..
    I'm in the same boat as you are but sadly It was pure trust and not a deal thing.. so i lost all my stuff..

    Hope you learn from your mistakes and shame on that Jaybe who won't commit to his promise.
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    I really hope this is not true. So far I had experienced Jaybe as a good guy.

    Sadly I see this kind of power abuse happening in multiple guilds, so I would not be too surprised.
    People should consider more closely who they are following/trusting and how clear the conditions are, you made a mistake too by not calculating a clear cost for the bow he has to cover. Crafting a delphinad can cost anything from 1k gold to technically no max amount. You should have known that an agreement like this can only go wrong.


    Best wishes though, if that story is true I hope Jaybe fears enough for his rep to give you back your bow instead of trying to give you a ridicolous compensation.

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    Don't give your stuff to people. I learned this in 1999 playing EverQuest.
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    That is why i been guildless for 3-4month
    no guild is worthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeanRC View Post
    That is why i been guildless for 3-4month
    no guild is worthy
    There are good guilds, it is just about if someone is willing to spend the time to find the right one.

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    Jaybe will still be a trash even he gets a delph bow :P

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    Sad to hear.

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