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    It's quite simple, grievers like pvp in housing zones, real pvpers are fighting where it matters.

    End of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hackillerz View Post
    It's quite simple, grievers like pvp in housing zones, real pvpers are fighting where it matters.

    End of story.
    Quoted for truth.

    On merged server I was forced to move from my original housing in Silent Forest to Ynystere. Even when I was planning to turn my house into Tradesman house and do safe trade runs to Falcorth, the second reason for this specific location was fact that ynystere is very close.

    After the merge I found spot on Sleeper's Cape over Caernord, just yesterday upgraded my house to Apothecary one and start to gather resources for pvp consumables. Still close enough to Ynystere Rifts to make raids or participate on them.

    Every location has its pros and cons. I cant do safe trade runs, but I am 15 meters from workbench, 30 meters from the sea, 100 meters from Caernord. I can be killed everywhere around my house, but why to attack me while my char is afk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badkitten View Post
    I fully disagree with the safe zones. I liked the old way better as its like going to iraq and setting up a garden in the middle of the desert and telling ISIS and the westerners, you no shoot me when I'm in my garden. It doesn't work that way...
    Of course it doesn't work that way. Neither can you teleport instantly from home to Iraq and back, or be resurrected when you die. Real life analogies don't make very convincing arguments in this game. If they did, those whose style of PvP depends on attacking players in their homes might be compared to real life rapists.

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    @Celestrata can you add a poll for this controversy I'm really curious how that would turn out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Careby View Post
    Of course it doesn't work that way. Neither can you teleport instantly from home to Iraq and back, or be resurrected when you die. Real life analogies don't make very convincing arguments in this game. If they did, those whose style of PvP depends on attacking players in their homes might be compared to real life rapists.
    Thats right.

    But one analogy from real life - how to use a benefit in game you paid for, but other players are allowed to block you, depending on which zone you placed it? You paid same money, you put same effort in building it.
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    i couldnt care less that potato farmer are safe on their farm.

    What do care about is that hauler / people with packs are safe over the whole housing area. Its a pvp zone for crying out loud.

    Whats next, pvp immunity on your boat ?

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    Ok. How you get those packs from housing zone in PVP Province on hauler?

    My possibilities:
    a) Over land on Ynystere, to Silent forest.
    b) Over the sea to any imaginable location.

    How is this safe?
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    I am a hardcore PvP'r and I would like to know this. If I can't kill people whilst afk in their house or picking crops, how will I ever get any kills?

    Go fight someone that can fight back? No way, that's not what real PvP is about.

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    It's not even all about killing afk or people harvesting things. You people seem to forget that packs are moved across properties to store them. If somebody is moving packs in hellswamp to store on their farm or even house so they can carebear them out during peace only then there is absolutely no way I am able to attack them.

    Hellswamp is now officially completely safe now to run packs. This doesn't apply to just larders, or fellowship packs. Housing in hellswamp is so close they can just drop back and teleport and they are completely safe. What's the point of having really good packs that can just be moved 100% safe now. And yes I mean 100% safe. Keep the housing changes if you want, but lower the amount of gold they get cause there is no longer a risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sale View Post
    It's not even all about killing afk or people harvesting things. You people seem to forget that packs are moved across properties to store them. If somebody is moving packs in hellswamp to store on their farm or even house so they can carebear them out during peace only then there is absolutely no way I am able to attack them.

    Hellswamp and Halcyona are now officially completely safe now to run packs. This doesn't apply to just larders, or fellowship packs. Housing in hellswamp is so close they can just drop back and teleport and they are completely safe. What's the point of having really good packs that can just be moved 100% safe now. And yes I mean 100% safe. Keep the housing changes if you want, but lower the amount of gold they get cause there is no longer a risk.
    No.

    Edit:
    1. If you are moving single pack (and able to teleport, dropback whatever), you are doing it wrong - a very little profit for invested time.
    2. You can call all your guildmembers to escort you from your farm. Then its much safer as well. Much safer as with safe house zone. Why not to decrease earnings for people who do traderuns in big groups?
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