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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevgeni View Post
    "hey, look at us, we're doing content, please look guys... guys? look, we did dgs and kraken and all these things..."

    Kraken was done today by ImGay who were there right as it spawned. I saw some people getting up to interrupt them about 15 mins in but by then, it was already done. One would think that if ImGay - I suppose the OP is part of it - truly wanted competition, they would take a break from their busy schedule of doing every world boss they can on timer and just patrol them instead. Wait for other guilds to assemble to get these world bosses and then beat them.

    Heard they had a fight with Rage at Morpheus today, for example.
    couple things.

    1. they dont do everything on every timer right as it spawns, which they should be having to do but instead, they are being extremely lazy compared to what they would have to be in a competitive environment. i am not in im gay, i played on morpheus vs yelotree and on the same faction as shawnsy and fought both of their guilds back then plenty. when theyre actually taking their competition seriously, they show up within a minute of you getting to the boss or dgs you wanted to kill. even for bosses as little as hanure or nazar or morph or meina/glenn pantsu would show up and destroy your raid and demoralize you from trying it again. they are taking it easier on the competition on this server than ive seen them take it on anyone. yet they are still freefarming the content when they decide to go and do it. no one shows up to contest, and no guild has proven to even be capable of doing the content uncontested. were just talking about kraken, anthalon and dgs here, because any blind and dumb mob zerg can kill rangora and morph and all those little bosses. and levi/rd are not on the radar for a while.

    2. you suggest they should let other guilds have a chance and not contest them and let them catch up. theyve been doing that for idk like 5+ days now allowing lethal/rage/whoever the hell wants to try dgs, im gay is not actively contesting other guilds attempts on dgs. baka is handling that entirely on their own. even when no one shows to contest, like tonight with baka literally just spamming shoutchat lethal gave up on a dgs. no one even had to come contest. the thought of being contested was enough. even when theres no contest or threat of contest, they just keep messing it up. sure it takes time to learn how to do content youve never done, but you cant blame the people in im gay for being frustrated that this is the best comeptition theyve got on this server.

    i get that you just want the server to be healthy and balanced and competitive and it seems like im gay should let up on dominating and throwing it in the competitions face but, how is just letting people freefarm going to make the server less boring for them?

    east just needs to get its ♥♥♥♥ together and show up once in a while before everyone quits from boredom and lag

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    Quote Originally Posted by notiggy View Post
    <imgay> tried too hard. Them quitting would likely be a good thing for long term server health.
    this server has no long term. its not that they tried too hard. no one else even tried. if you want to see tried too hard look at disaster and everywhere theyve won.

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    Fun fact: All world boss content can be denied easily at this time. Oh they doing dgs? Ginseng the fking dgs's hp back up. Oh, they doing kraken? Three drs ps the tanks (dr damage is ♥♥♥♥ing broken rn), shoot the kraken with a clipper and aggro that ♥♥♥♥ on kraken chase and run it out....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgame View Post
    If 'I'm Gay' really wanted competition they wouldn't be hiding from the top guild NA on Fresh Start servers. They don't want competition at the highest level, they want to beat up on beginners and tourists. 80% of that guild has a character on legacy servers, yet they are free farming on Fresh Start just so they don't have to lose against Disaster anymore.

    So which do you want, win 100% of the content on a Fresh start server or lose 100% of the content on legacy?

    I prophesied how FS would unfold 3 months before it launched. How many 'I'm Gay' members are going to get halfway through their epherium sets before they realize they already did this ♥♥♥♥ two years ago and the fruit of their efforts is still waiting for them 4 clicks away.

    There is only one guild in this game who can be considered endgame content and 'I'm Gay' is actively avoiding us so they can torment people who don't even know what kraken is or where it spawns.
    Who is Disaster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevgeni View Post
    The truth of the matter is that, personally, I'm more interested in small-scale PvP than the zergfest world bosses are. I make more gold doing merchant runs and pirating merchants than I'd doing the world bosses and in much less time. My gear is thus not affected.
    I'm sure you are in Cele GHA or Serp .

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    Freshly would come out to contest but unfortunately I can't organize a guild to escape a paper bag, let alone get our guild galleons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevgeni View Post
    You also come up with the premise that everyone would be, should be interested in "world bosses" (or content as they call it). Personally, I find most of them tedious to say the least. I've done my fair share on previous servers and if similar-sized raids compete for the same world boss, it is pretty much down to whoever can keep on doing large-scale 50vs50 mageball the longest without being bored to death.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one who's simply not that into major world bosses. Their mechanisms are generally very predictable and the rewards, outside of RD/Kraken weapons, are generally subpar, given that you have to share them between 20-30+ people.

    The truth of the matter is that, personally, I'm more interested in small-scale PvP than the zergfest world bosses are. I make more gold doing merchant runs and pirating merchants than I'd doing the world bosses and in much less time. My gear is thus not affected.

    I have no qualm against them doing world bosses if that's what they like. I just think there's more to the game besides that and that they seem to be the ones not enjoying themselves, given that they're repeatedly bringing it up.
    You really don't have to explain to me about these fights. You're a bit wrong on that first part, though. In the case that there isn't one big completely overpowering group that can just brute force a boss and guard the attempt at the same time (which is rare), it doesn't take who can keep up the 50 man mageball the longest. Winning it just purely comes down to who can last the longest with enough people to actually do the boss - which is a hell of a lot less than most people believe, especially for bosses like kraken and dgs which aren't heavily gear dependent, and is a heck of a lot less than a full 50+ man mageball.

    For the fresh start server, though, no one would be even getting these bosses at the moment partly because of this sustainability and also the ease of which it is to contest them. It should be an easy feat to contest these bosses until they despawn with the current population. There should be plenty of people willing and excited to go out and pvp and prevent boss attempts for hours. I mean, we're not talking about 2014/early 2015 psycho kraken south of auroria that didn't have a despawn timer and would cause fights that lasted 24+ hours. All bosses are on timers now. So at least you know there is an end when the boss will despawn, and with the size of guilds now, it shouldn't be that hard to rally a group of people to interrupt an attempt and cycle the raid as people log on/off. Or at the very least scout it.

    While you aren't interested in world bosses, surely it isn't that the entire rest of the server outside of im gay is so disinterested in world bosses that they don't attempt bosses or interrupt others. I know there are plenty of people on the east who understand the importance of these bosses. The rewards aren't subpar. It adds up, fast, and becomes a snowball effect as another poster stated as well. Having had these bosses are freefarm at a few points in time on different servers, the effect is huge. The rewards do not seem like much individually, but if a guild gets freefarm, even with dgs nerf, they can make more gold as a guild than almost all of their guild members could individually. Sure, there are some members who can make more money farming privately than they could if they helped a guild do endgame content, but that isn't true for the majority. Add onto that the fact that farming these bosses gives you access to high tier crafting mats that everyone will need or gear pieces that people will want. Only the guild doing content will have access to these items and most likely will not be selling since their guildies get first priority - no amount of farmed gold will suddenly make these items available to people outside of the content guild. So the load of gold, gear, and items that the guild makes gets put back into the guildies, who are still farming on their own outside of boss time. They wind up having their own income + anything they get from the guild + exclusive items for ugprades and can progress much faster than anyone in other guilds. Soon, the guild that is consistently getting content starts to seriously outgear their competition, and then if people suddenly show up to a boss to contest, it's much more difficult to pull a win from the "ruling" guild.

    Then add onto the other effects of getting or even going out to these bosses consistently - more people will want to join the guild going out, not just because of a chance of loot but also because there are a lot more people who just want to be involved in this content than you give them credit. So then you have the ruling guild having not just higher gear but also more people. By that point, the other guilds generally realize that they should have done something earlier, or they fully believe that there is no way for them to win content anymore. The other guilds wind up not even going out to content anymore, and the ruling guild then is in a true free farm.

    Like I said, it's just a snowball effect. A snowball effect that has even more impact on a fresh start server like Reckoning. Maybe you don't like bosses, but that doesn't mean everyone else doesn't like them either. And it doesn't negate the tremendous effect they have on progression and server balance, even if you believe you can personally make more money without them. It's true that there is more to the game than world bosses, but if someone is concerned at all with server balance and progression, they should be concerned with who is getting these world bosses too. When a guild on fresh start is throwing out anthalon pulls and dream ring debuffs with t6+ weaps and kraken actives on groups of people still in celestial dungeon gear and mistsong weaps, maybe people will realize that they shoulda fought for bosses sooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asada12 View Post
    Who is Disaster?
    The top guild NA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgame View Post
    The top guild NA.
    Pre or post FC? I'm sure you didn't get any content until all of FC quit.

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    A large majority of the playerbase on freshstart is people who just want to go out and pvp. Not blob click mend and implosion while auto attacking a world boss. With that in mind, there is another group of players who chase these servers around to put their mothers in debt swiping their way to blob content first. Anyone worth a ♥♥♥♥ has already been there and done that 10x, and is here to just run around and screw off.

    And Celia, why don't you guys dedicate a whole 2 weeks investment to get a mistsong weapon and GHA gear and deny Im Gay content if you are that cucked about the whole situation. With as much as you guys have try harded across every server to compensate for finally beating a skeletal FC crew that had lost interest months before, use this as a chance for PvP. You can't really play the waste of time card because it literally would take your crew about 100 hours of time investment to get geared competitively here.

    Heck, I've part time played after work, not spent a dime, and have 3500gs with 30 apex in the bank. Could easily break 4k if I spent time gemming. You guys could be sitting at this in 2 weeks top and be ahead of the curve. It really is excuses at this point, considering you are currently man handling castles from a brazilian fishing alliance as content.
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