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    Will anyone ever contest?

    What is this server doing? Seems like everyone is letting <i'm gay> get everything. Why does no one seem to care. Looks like server dead before I thought it would be. Seems like there are no good guilds on west or east, none of them show up to anything. I guess <i'm gay> will win everything.

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    I'm ready to pay tribute in peanuts to the supreme overlords, <im gay>. I'm planting them now.

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    "hey, look at us, we're doing content, please look guys... guys? look, we did dgs and kraken and all these things..."

    Kraken was done today by ImGay who were there right as it spawned. I saw some people getting up to interrupt them about 15 mins in but by then, it was already done. One would think that if ImGay - I suppose the OP is part of it - truly wanted competition, they would take a break from their busy schedule of doing every world boss they can on timer and just patrol them instead. Wait for other guilds to assemble to get these world bosses and then beat them.

    Heard they had a fight with Rage at Morpheus today, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevgeni View Post
    "hey, look at us, we're doing content, please look guys... guys? look, we did dgs and kraken and all these things..."

    Kraken was done today by ImGay who were there right as it spawned. I saw some people getting up to interrupt them about 15 mins in but by then, it was already done. One would think that if ImGay - I suppose the OP is part of it - truly wanted competition, they would take a break from their busy schedule of doing every world boss they can on timer and just patrol them instead. Wait for other guilds to assemble to get these world bosses and then beat them.

    Heard they had a fight with Rage at Morpheus today, for example.
    Alright, I'm definitely not in <im gay>, but this is kinda the type of attitude as to why there is very little contesting on this server in the first place.

    When it comes to end-game world bosses/content, the guilds who want to compete for it should have a raid ready even before the boss spawns, especially on a fresh start server like this where the gold/items from these bosses are even more valuable. Whether you have the raid directly at the boss or waiting on standby with just a scout on the boss depends on situations, but either way... the point is you're supposed to be prepared. It's not "hey, we kinda sorta wanna do this boss whenever we get around to it. Maybe later." It's also definitely not another guild's responsibility to stop themselves from doing content just so another lazier or less prepared guild can have a shot at it, and when the items/gold from these bosses are so valuable, it'd be pretty much a charity case to avoid doing a boss just for the sake of pvp. The pvp should be happening whether someone gets on the boss when it spawns or 2 hours later. The fact that pvp isn't happening doesn't mean <im gay> is at fault for being prepared and on time to a world boss. It's the fault of all the other guilds for not doing the same.

    To phrase this request in another way... it'd be like if there was a marathon to win $10k, and only one dude showed up on time. Everyone else was late not because they got into a horrendous accident but because they decided to sleep a couple of extra hours. Are you really gonna tell the one dude who actually showed up on time that he can't win simply because his competition was lazy? They had equal chance to be there on time and prepared, but they weren't. Also try telling the dude who was there on time that he should avoid running the race until his lazy competition catches up, just so he can feel "competition." Fair, right?

    <im gay> is within their right to troll/make fun of/complain about the fact that there is very little contesting on this server. It's a fresh start server, and more people should be competing for content, at least in a better method than what they do now. The fact that they aren't is rather hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoaWoe View Post
    Alright, I'm definitely not in <im gay>, but this is kinda the type of attitude as to why there is very little contesting on this server in the first place.

    When it comes to end-game world bosses/content, the guilds who want to compete for it should have a raid ready even before the boss spawns, especially on a fresh start server like this where the gold/items from these bosses are even more valuable. Whether you have the raid directly at the boss or waiting on standby with just a scout on the boss depends on situations, but either way... the point is you're supposed to be prepared. It's not "hey, we kinda sorta wanna do this boss whenever we get around to it. Maybe later." It's also definitely not another guild's responsibility to stop themselves from doing content just so another lazier or less prepared guild can have a shot at it, and when the items/gold from these bosses are so valuable, it'd be pretty much a charity case to avoid doing a boss just for the sake of pvp. The pvp should be happening whether someone gets on the boss when it spawns or 2 hours later. The fact that pvp isn't happening doesn't mean <im gay> is at fault for being prepared and on time to a world boss. It's the fault of all the other guilds for not doing the same.

    To phrase this request in another way... it'd be like if there was a marathon to win $10k, and only one dude showed up on time. Everyone else was late not because they got into a horrendous accident but because they decided to sleep a couple of extra hours. Are you really gonna tell the one dude who actually showed up on time that he can't win simply because his competition was lazy? They had equal chance to be there on time and prepared, but they weren't. Also try telling the dude who was there on time that he should avoid running the race until his lazy competition catches up, just so he can feel "competition." Fair, right?

    <im gay> is within their right to troll/make fun of/complain about the fact that there is very little contesting on this server. It's a fresh start server, and more people should be competing for content, at least in a better method than what they do now. The fact that they aren't is rather hilarious.
    I said "OP", as in "Original Post", as in the guy who made the thread. Not you.

    You're taking this problem the wrong way. No one is blaming them for being on top of things. They're the ones who are complaining that people aren't showing up.

    To continue with your analogy, they are the marathon runner who enters a race for 10k grand, does a great race by all accounts, wins it but then complains that he was the only one in the race.

    He then goes around telling others how he won 10k and how great the race was and everybody's pretty much like "good for you, champ". But that's not what he says he wants. He claims he wants competition.

    In that scenario, imo, there is two possibilities: there is a problem with the race in itself if it's only drawing a small number (or one) of competitors. The other part might be: if you're truly interested in a race but your competitors are weaker than you, maybe you should take that into account.

    You also come up with the premise that everyone would be, should be interested in "world bosses" (or content as they call it). Personally, I find most of them tedious to say the least. I've done my fair share on previous servers and if similar-sized raids compete for the same world boss, it is pretty much down to whoever can keep on doing large-scale 50vs50 mageball the longest without being bored to death.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one who's simply not that into major world bosses. Their mechanisms are generally very predictable and the rewards, outside of RD/Kraken weapons, are generally subpar, given that you have to share them between 20-30+ people.

    The truth of the matter is that, personally, I'm more interested in small-scale PvP than the zergfest world bosses are. I make more gold doing merchant runs and pirating merchants than I'd doing the world bosses and in much less time. My gear is thus not affected.

    I have no qualm against them doing world bosses if that's what they like. I just think there's more to the game besides that and that they seem to be the ones not enjoying themselves, given that they're repeatedly bringing it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevgeni View Post

    I have no qualm against them doing world bosses if that's what they like. I just think there's more to the game besides that and that they seem to be the ones not enjoying themselves, given that they're repeatedly bringing it up.
    This is the exact attitude whoawoe was talking about. You "doing other things" gets you 1/10th of the progression in a day a guild gets when they kill bosses like Kraken. All you're doing by doing trade runs instead of contesting content is getting the gold necessary to get end game items other guilds are providing you with.

    When a server only has one guild capable of doing those events this early in the game they are only going to snowball and become unstoppable very quickly... which destroys the server

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    One would think that if ImGay - I suppose the OP is part of it - truly wanted competition, they would take a break from their busy schedule of doing every world boss they can on timer and just patrol them instead.
    If 'I'm Gay' really wanted competition they wouldn't be hiding from the top guild NA on Fresh Start servers. They don't want competition at the highest level, they want to beat up on beginners and tourists. 80% of that guild has a character on legacy servers, yet they are free farming on Fresh Start just so they don't have to lose against Disaster anymore.

    So which do you want, win 100% of the content on a Fresh start server or lose 100% of the content on legacy?

    I prophesied how FS would unfold 3 months before it launched. How many 'I'm Gay' members are going to get halfway through their epherium sets before they realize they already did this ♥♥♥♥ two years ago and the fruit of their efforts is still waiting for them 4 clicks away.

    There is only one guild in this game who can be considered endgame content and 'I'm Gay' is actively avoiding us so they can torment people who don't even know what kraken is or where it spawns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgame View Post
    If 'I'm Gay' really wanted competition they wouldn't be hiding from the top guild NA on Fresh Start servers. They don't want competition at the highest level, they want to beat up on beginners and tourists. 80% of that guild has a character on legacy servers, yet they are free farming on Fresh Start just so they don't have to lose against Disaster anymore.

    So which do you want, win 100% of the content on a Fresh start server or lose 100% of the content on legacy?

    I prophesied how FS would unfold 3 months before it launched. How many 'I'm Gay' members are going to get halfway through their epherium sets before they realize they already did this ♥♥♥♥ two years ago and the fruit of their efforts is still waiting for them 4 clicks away.

    There is only one guild in this game who can be considered endgame content and 'I'm Gay' is actively avoiding us so they can torment people who don't even know what kraken is or where it spawns.
    Then why is disaster hiding on legacy servers where they can hide behind years of exploited and free farm progression?

    You guys are the bad ones by dodging the one server where everyone has a ln equal footing.

    The mistsong weapons are pretty op but it means most of the server is going to be equally geared. Most of the server, including I'm gay whoa currently getting the majority of content are in unique armor and celestial weapons purely by doing dungeons. Can get to 4.5k or so easily this way...no gold or world content needed.

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    <imgay> tried too hard. Them quitting would likely be a good thing for long term server health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevgeni View Post
    "hey, look at us, we're doing content, please look guys... guys? look, we did dgs and kraken and all these things..."

    Kraken was done today by ImGay who were there right as it spawned. I saw some people getting up to interrupt them about 15 mins in but by then, it was already done. One would think that if ImGay - I suppose the OP is part of it - truly wanted competition, they would take a break from their busy schedule of doing every world boss they can on timer and just patrol them instead. Wait for other guilds to assemble to get these world bosses and then beat them.

    Heard they had a fight with Rage at Morpheus today, for example.
    Are you people seriously going to tell them to not do content, just because you guys don't want to get off your ♥♥♥ and be there on cooldown to contest it? WAKE THE FU-CK UP THATS NOT HOW THIS GAME WORKS! Everyone fu cking knows when the bosses spawn. If you are not there on cooldown, you are not trying to be competitive, you are not trying to be the best. IF YOU WANT CONTENT, YOU FIGHT FOR IT, NO REST, NO SLEEP, 24/7, BECAUSE THATS WHAT IT MEANS TO BE COMPETITIVE IN ARCHEAGE.
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