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    Quote Originally Posted by slippy View Post
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    I mean it says it right there.
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    Also, here is a quote from Williams and Mary's Business on Law review had to has written about legal definition of Bait & Switch.

    The FTC also singles out certain behaviors that could constitute a violation of section 5,
    notably “discouragement of purchase of [the] advertised merchandise”57 and post-sale switches.5*

    Source: http://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/vi...&context=wmblr

    So the question of getting these items removed is mostly mote. Yes technically Trion has ownership of the account, but the consumer has paid to have these accounts modified to have a specific service or item in this case. The only way they could reasonably get away with it is to do a complete re-launch of the game. At the current health of the game, it might not be a bad idea to clean the slate and remove the Pay to win items.

    So lets not focuse on removing the items, because to be blunt. It won't happen, and if they did and some how managed to avoid the FCC Hammer, nobody would spend money on Crates, bundles etc because of the bait & switch. Personally, I don't like the gliders. I hate how their a must have to pvp and how they were a cash item. That reminds me, I have a friend as a paralegal. Time to harass her, and get some ideas from her. Maybe I'm wrong.

    So lets focuse on how to limit the gliders in general. From my experience. Some of the game breaking from the gliders come the ability to switch gliders and spam their abilities to suddenly end up 200 meters away.

    You can't switch armors in combat from plate to cloth once your in combat. It makes sense as that would be game breaking. Perhaps having gliders treated like armor is a viable solution. You can still use your glider, but you can't switch it out and use a different gliders abilities while in combat.

    Another option is group the abilities of gliders into groups, like they did with the red dragon abilities. So if you use the ability on one glider, and its on cool down. The abilities on other gliders will also be on cool down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathvas View Post
    No one is saying to remove the glider completely.

    As for nerfing premium items, Trion has done it before, it's not a farfetched idea. Just very recently, the Stormwraith Kirin was nerfed and compensation was given out for it. If you want to count it, same thing happened with the Mirage Donkey back when it was broken.

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