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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by iArches View Post
    We assure you that there will be compensation for all existing housing owners that are losing their homes and we are currently preparing everything so the affected players who have already built a house there receive the compensation with the demolishing of their houses. The complete compensation list is still in discussion, but it will definitely include prepayed taxes, decoration limit increases together with the normal demolition via mail. In preparation for this change we are asking you to avoid building any additional housing items that would be lost like e.g. adding a Mining Drill shortly before the maintenance. As we cannot send you a compensation for these items.
    You plan on compensating the buildings but what about the land? If you look around the server (atleast on aria) there is almost no free land due to alts and people holding onto unbuilt plots, with the removal of auroria land a lot of the people will not have land.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by iArches View Post
    Hello Erenorians,
    As many of you have already seen in the Korean version, the territory siege system is going to be revamped and this change will also be applied to the NA and EU regions. With the Echoes of Hiram update we have already stated that player nations can no longer be declared or created. Unfortunately, there are more changes coming along with the revamp of the siege system.

    With the July Update, currently targeted for July 24th, the housing areas of Sungold Fields, Heedmar, Exeloch, Nuimari, Marcala and Calmlands need to be removed. We know that a lot of you who have their houses in these regions will lose their beloved and nicely decorated homes. This decision was not easy, however, this change is mandatory to progress towards the new siege system.

    We assure you that there will be compensation for all existing housing owners that are losing their homes and we are currently preparing everything so the affected players who have already built a house there receive the compensation with the demolishing of their houses. The complete compensation list is still in discussion, but it will definitely include prepayed taxes, decoration limit increases together with the normal demolition via mail. In preparation for this change we are asking you to avoid building any additional housing items that would be lost like e.g. adding a Mining Drill shortly before the maintenance. As we cannot send you a compensation for these items.

    Additionally, existing Player Nations will be in the state of Pending Collapse. We understand that it’s very frustrating for the Player Nations to lose their castles and land. Therefore, a Territory Statue Scroll will be provided to the Sovereign of each Player Nation, so that they can at least have the faction statue buff. This scroll will be available until the new siege system will be implemented which is currently targeted to be end of September.

    Lord’s Coins cannot be obtained anymore. Recipes that required Lord's Coins are going to be adjusted and will use Dragon Essence Stabilizers instead which will match the Fresh Start recipes. With the siege revamp targeted for September players can exchange the Lord’s Coin for new Territory Coins. Territory Coins can be acquired by the ruling faction.

    Since there are plenty of changes coming up, the team would love for you all to share your feedback about them.
    Thank you,
    ~The ArcheAge Team

    Update: The removal of housings and territory structures has been delayed until August 7th, to ensure the smoothest transition for players. Further details are provided in this post: http://forums.archeagegame.com/showt...=1#post2749719
    Hello, i have a question did u guys gonna do a compensation for heros are losing
    all work because of these changes??

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    Quote Originally Posted by nukelearbullet View Post
    Hello, i have a question did u guys gonna do a compensation for heros are losing
    all work because of these changes??
    Hello, heroes were not going to exist after the 24th, so they just got the extra few days at the end of the month they were about to lose in 3 days. Quit being a whiner.

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    ""With the July Update, currently targeted for July 24th, the housing areas of Sungold Fields, Heedmar, Exeloch, Nuimari, Marcala and Calmlands need to be removed. We know that a lot of you who have their houses in these regions will lose their beloved and nicely decorated homes. This decision was not easy, however, this change is mandatory to progress towards the new siege system. """

    compensation ??
    i want LAND!!. dont give us buff or infusion or apex or anything that easy to get !
    DEV should understand to get a Land is super hard!. harder than making +++gear.
    there is almost no more spot left at mainland.
    so if you want to compensate us,, give us a plot of land.
    i dont know , maybe floating in the air will do.

  5. #85
    I'm not affected by that, but a little proposal:
    Give players a ticket for each building which is demolished, like "16x16 priviliged ticket". Later, if you reopen housing zones there or somewhere else, it's needed to have such a ticket to fetch land. This way all owners become priviliged to get the next free lands which reach the world.
    After a while (e.g. 1 month) you remove this item as requirement to build in the new housing zones.

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    Thank you for sharing information
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthag View Post
    I'm not affected by that, but a little proposal:
    Give players a ticket for each building which is demolished, like "16x16 priviliged ticket". Later, if you reopen housing zones there or somewhere else, it's needed to have such a ticket to fetch land. This way all owners become priviliged to get the next free lands which reach the world.
    After a while (e.g. 1 month) you remove this item as requirement to build in the new housing zones.
    ...OR... give gold for the current lots size, example 16x16 is around 1k to 3k. depend on locations. 24x24 around 5k to 10k. 28x 28 aruond 10k 20k. .and so on

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    The information that has been provided has brought many questions and few answers. It has caused confusion within the game for both nation and faction players alike. The land removal will hurt all players heavily as there are a lot of players and not a lot of available land for us to move to. There is no assurance that things will be handled properly and in a timely manner.

    These coming updates worked out for the KR system due mainly to the population differences and differences in play styles. The NA and EU versions will not be able to handle this update as easily as KR did for varying reasons such as more players, more player nations, more nuian and haranian players.

    The balance of the game will be drastically affected once all members of the player nations are forced back to nuian and haranian. Right now there are easily 100-200 players, when adding in the 851 players from the nations trying to complete the same rift, the same boss, the same event in the same faction will be impossible, the ability for the servers to handle that many players trying to do the same event such as whalesong or aegis will create nothing more than a mess of lag and inability to play.

    In regards to the Territory Statue Scroll

    Additionally, existing Player Nations will be in the state of Pending Collapse. We understand that it’s very frustrating for the Player Nations to lose their castles and land.
    When removing the land from Auroria, and subsequently removing the castle land and castles, you will put all of our player nations into pending collapse. Pending collapse means that we do not own a castle anymore, this means that we cannot place any building designs at the castle, the castle building zone that allows for design placement goes away when not owned.

    “Therefore, a Territory Statue Scroll will be provided to the Sovereign of each Player Nation, so that they can at least have the faction statue buff. This scroll will be available until the new siege system will be implemented which is currently targeted to be end of September.”
    If a nation does not own a castle, and cannot place anything in the zone where the castle is/was, then they cannot! Place a territory statue.

    The player nation Territory Statues are placed within the bounds of the castle zone that the corresponding nations sovereign Owns, Pending collapse Means that the sovereign of that nation does not own castle, which means that we as sovereigns do not own a zone, specifically the circular zone where the castle lodestone is owned, which in turn means that none of our nations can have a territory statue.

    It would be helpful to us as the leaders of the nations to know how Gamigo and XL Games plans to implement this new scroll before the update. As it stands currently we will be unable to place this scroll that you are giving us to “at least have the faction statue buff” making the compensation absolutely worthless!

    Currently we cannot think of a means in which this Territory Statue Scroll will be able to be used by any of us sovereigns because once the patch is implemented, all of our nations will go into pending collapse and we will not own a territory.

    In regards to the small wyverns.

    We have been unable to utilize the abilities of our nations to make the Golden Wyvern and the small wyverns, as they had been disabled for over 9 months because of the aurorian packs being removed from the game.

    The ability to raise the Golden and Small wyverns was recently re-enabled when the recipe was changed from aurorian packs to lords coins with the patch on June 26th!

    “• Quality Wyvern Chow: Updated the quest texts and tooltips that were related to Ynys Sacred Calf.
    • The meat from Ynys Sacred Calf can be acquired by consuming a Lord's Coin to pray to the Calf.”
    The delay in the update has allowed all of our player nations that have been or wanted to be in the process of fulfilling requests from our members to obtain one of the small wyverns, many of our nations have even been in the process or about to complete the process of making the sovereigns Golden Wyvern at the time of the announcement for the removal of castles.

    The small wyverns are made in groups of 6, requiring a Leviathan eye, and a Quality Wyvern Chow, the process takes 15 days to complete.

    Being unable to use this function for over 9 months, and 16 days after being able to raise them again you’re telling us that you are once again taking it away from us and our members. This is quite frustrating to everyone that has wanted one for a long time, and is now unable to get them because of issues beyond their control. We thank you for allowing more time to get one or two of these groups raised up and distributed to those that have wanted them and been waiting over 9 months, however due to the wait and the subsequent removal again, not everyone that has wanted one and waited for one will be able to receive one again under no fault of their own.

    We would like to request that the CS team be allowed to fulfill our members wyvern requests due to the inability for us to raise them after the patch on August 7th. A ticket from the Sovereign stating that these 6 players, would like one of the small wyverns from the group of 6 per required materials to raise them. And the materials removed from the sovereigns inventory

    Player Balances

    Player Nation Difference in NA/EU from Korea

    Currently the make up of both NA and EU is different from Korea in regards to when they implemented this patch, they did not have the player nations or players that our version has in them

    All of our player nations are made up of players from both the Nuian and Haranian factions. Friends that play with each other, have fun with each other, spend time with each other, and whale with each other.


    Player Nations current status as of 7-24-19

    ARIA

    GG03
    150 Players

    Omen51
    124 Players

    Orphanage
    146 Players

    KADUM

    Nation BTW
    81 Players

    Haunted
    95 Players

    TARIS

    Karma14
    89 Players

    Regroup On Mark03
    20 players

    JAKAR

    BURN
    61 Players

    Misclick
    85 Players

    NA currently has 5 player nations, combined we have a total of 596 players from both the Nuian and Haranian factions playing in our player nations.

    EU currently has 4 player nations, combined we have a total of 255 players from both the Nuian and Haranian factions playing in our player nations

    Currently with the information provided, we are to understand that all of our nation’s will be entering the pending collapse state on with the update on Aug 7th.
    The current target for the new siege update implementation is sometime in September. Depending on the logistics with the implementation of the September Siege patch, the likelihood that all of our nations collapse due to this change is almost certain.

    The vagueness of the information on this is quite alarming especially when it affects so many players. It will not only affect us as player nations but the Nuian and Haranian factions as well, and the Pirate faction.

    If the plan for our nations is the same as Korea, then you will be sending 851 players Pirate overloading the pirate faction. Forcing our Nations that have been battling each other and engaging in PVP to use the flag system to battle engage in any type of PVP.

    If the plan is to not send us pirate then the influx of players that will be sent back to the Nuian and Haranian factions will create a very heavy imbalance and overload all events and make it so that a large amount of players are unable to participate in events, have competing raids and none of us complete the events, and quite frankly almost all of us will be forced to use the flag system to engage in PVP at content resulting in nearly all of the 851 players being in jail and thus unable to participate in any content.

    If we are all sent to our respective fractions when we created our characters we will be split from our friends unable to party, and raid with them, unable to play together as we have been.

    We would like to ask for some considerations in timing in regards to keeping the player nations alive until the new siege system is implemented thus allowing us to reclaim a territory and not drive our friends apart or create insane imbalances.

    Additionally, we would like to ask for some Special considerations in allowing the CS team to change a characters faction, if not the faction, allow the CS team to Change a Characters entire possessions, buildings, gear, vehicles, pets, mounts, items, from his or her respective faction to the alternate character on the same account from the opposite faction, thus allowing us to continue playing with our friends, without losing the investments that we have put into the game, many of us have a substantial monetary investment in our gear and other items.

    In regards to the new siege system, according to the information out of KR, you will need a Hero to initiate a siege, should the Nations be put into pending collapse and not own a castle, we will not be able to have Heros as you are required to own a castle to have Heros in a nation. This being the case it is with near 100% certainty that all existing player nations will collapse and the players scattered to the main factions.

    Requiring the nations to go back to Nuian and Haranian destroying the balance, claim the hero spots in order to reclaim their nations seems a bit excessive.

    The overall loss of land will be felt by every player that has land or has wanted land, those of us that have land there were lucky to get land there, being told our land is being taken away is a very devastating hit. There will be little chance of finding a place to place land, there will be little chance of reclaiming the land that we have once the land is reopened. When we were taken down to 2 servers it was incredibly hard to find and place the land we currently have, and once again we are being evicted from our homes with no real information and no real destination and no fair way to claim land, no guarantees of being able to get new land, no hope to acquire land.

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    To clarify some of the questions brought up, yes, it is intended that the Player Nations are fully removed as part of the upcoming changes to territories and sieges. That is a significant portion of the reasoning behind the pending collapse status that nations will be placed into on the 7th.

    When the nations fully collapse, the current plan is for players in those to be sent back to their home factions, and not join the Pirate faction, as that would completely overload the pirate factions as mentioned. While I can't get into any specifics, I can say that we are looking forward to how best to ensure that there are options available to players should that cause faction imbalance on the servers.

    The Customer Support team does not, and will not have the capability to move characters between factions, nor offer any type of movement of items to a new characters.

    We also have brought up the land question with the XL team and are currently looking for any additional information from them in regards to upcoming plans for land on all servers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinen View Post
    To clarify some of the questions brought up, yes, it is intended that the Player Nations are fully removed as part of the upcoming changes to territories and sieges. That is a significant portion of the reasoning behind the pending collapse status that nations will be placed into on the 7th.

    When the nations fully collapse, the current plan is for players in those to be sent back to their home factions, and not join the Pirate faction, as that would completely overload the pirate factions as mentioned. While I can't get into any specifics, I can say that we are looking forward to how best to ensure that there are options available to players should that cause faction imbalance on the servers.

    The Customer Support team does not, and will not have the capability to move characters between factions, nor offer any type of movement of items to a new characters.

    We also have brought up the land question with the XL team and are currently looking for any additional information from them in regards to upcoming plans for land on all servers.

    so basically don't renew patron till next year, because the past 4 years i've spent collecting stuff and gearing means nothing because i can no longer play with my guild/nation? can i get all my assets back in cash plz ty

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