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    Archer - Stone Arrows - Help Us

    I wanted ask when archer will be viable again. And no I donít mean ebonsong.
    Iíve played mostly Stone Arrow from the beginning and love the class.

    But it seems that all the deb love goes to mage and other melee classes.

    It seems to be at the point that they should just remove the archer from the game as this may be the best solution.

    My question is; will there be any upcoming patches that make archer, specifically Stone Arrow playable?

    itís a great class but almost useless now.

    Thanks.

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    Its still viable in 1v1 arenas vs dark runner and blade dancers, but other than that no there is nothing I'm aware of in the pipeline in korea that makes stone arrow great again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanTheGreat View Post
    Its still viable in 1v1 arenas vs dark runner and blade dancers, but other than that no there is nothing I'm aware of in the pipeline in korea that makes stone arrow great again.
    Are yall kidding? Stone arrow, with plate is stupid good, as with any current plate-armored dps/tank spec. Build yourself correctly, and you basically win all 1v1s, outside of specific stun-lock (**STUN**-lock) comps and similar plate dps magic builds, as well as having relevance in RvR cuz you're ranged.

    We had a stone arrow in the top 5 arena for a good month or two on kadum, mixed with cloth and plate. I knew him outside of arena too, and he still kicked ash. Stone arrow (or any ranged defense spec) is basically gg to most archers, because its a direct counter to your dmg (block rate + evasion) while having similar dmg, more hp, and higher defense, the the bane of physical dps. Archers are also the best class in KR. OUR problem is our latency within our server, which causes range disparity between your pc and your opponents (25m gap to you.... 20m to them).
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    1v1 Ull do okay, the game is mostly huge rvr now.. you benefit more from trickster or ebon or prim.. over stone
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    Quote Originally Posted by FluXIx View Post
    1v1 Ull do okay, the game is mostly huge rvr now.. you benefit more from trickster or ebon or prim.. over stone
    As you should, because theyre more offensive classes. Stone does its job, which is keeping YOU alive.
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    If you don't have erenor radiant +25 mythic/eternal bow for your archer, then do not bother to play archer at all; and if you don't go for full penetration build then again no bother to play with archer at all. Archer with crit rate + crit damage is only good for pve but at pvp you miss most of your attacks; because your opponents are generally +10k, +13k, +14k, +15k and even some +16k gear score players who generally go for tanky builds. Thus, it is hard to give damage to that players as archer. Right now, in every new patches, archers are nerfed so hard in skill damage, combos and so on while other classes took nice buffs or skill changes and so on.

    For example, new patch's new skill tree - swift blade which it has a passive that gets x6 stats for each hit with 500 penetration and movement buff without having a cooldown like some of the other skill trees' passives from battlerage and shadowplay. Battlerage has a passive that lowers your physical defence for -3000 for 5 seconds, and this new skill tree lowers your physical defence for another 3000 too. If you apply physical defence penetration gems to your weapons, cloak, costume, accessories then you neglect your opponent's defence fully and even lower it to minus too. In addition to that, you still get extra damage for these skills you used as crit damage too which even your opponent has lots of defensive stats from resilience etc, you have lots of crit damage still.

    New fresh server is coming and even noone has gear, you will lower your opponent's physical defence by -6000 just from the skill tree passives. Therefore, the cloth and leather users will suffer a lot from the hands of melee more and you cannot run away from them at all anymore too...
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    Wow Stone arrow archer is so so bad class, i will say useless completely useless in raids. Like the last post i agree even with max gear Bow its still useless in dps, just more defence u dont need in raid like range dps, and your dps will be a joke vs plates or shields

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitts View Post
    Wow Stone arrow archer is so so bad class, i will say useless completely useless in raids. Like the last post i agree even with max gear Bow its still useless in dps, just more defence u dont need in raid like range dps, and your dps will be a joke vs plates or shields
    You guys all sound as bad as the "Buff mages!" groups we used to have... Stone arrow can build hiram plate, with full agility stats, and an hp shield, and do the very near-same dmg as any other archer, while having 10k+ more hp and 5-10k more defense, and immunity to every common cc-spam combo class, being impales and knockdowns. You will never lose to another archer of equal dmg/gear, and will still beat most archers with better gear (leather), due to your mitigation stats, as explained in a previous post.

    Being a bad player doesnt make the class bad, and I don't mean to say that in an insulting way, but 90% of the archers I've seen fight in this game, who complain about archery, arent even good at kiting, or simply expect to kill players in one rotation, which would be broken, and doesnt happen on equal gear levels.

    I'll contact Baalkin on Kadum, if you would like info on playing stone arrow correctly.
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    (Info from KR streamer about state of archers)
    It's relatively better than before.
    At the current KR AA(6.0), Arena top2 is the archer.
    with 40 to 70 ping, if your control is aligned with it, it doesn't matter at all.
    But if you think in terms of sea pvp, you are lucky to be a archer.

    Do what you will with that information.

    I'll also add my personal opinions about the class if it has any value.
    The archery class is one of the weakest dps classes in the game(range for dps) and if anything, other classes do most of the jobs better. Also with the upcoming new class option(swiftblade) kiting meele classes will be even more difficult. Even tho its going to get buffed in several ways with the 6.0 patch the class is still regarded as one of the weaker ones in pvp. Stone arrow exchanges a portion of dps for survivebility, with archery's allready weak dps making it weaker, not to mention if you run plate you will only have a advantage vs other archers and some DR's, mages and other counters will still shread you into pieces. Over all i will tell you what ive been told: ''Play the class if you like it, at the end of the day it comes down to your personal handling of the class, if you are skilled you might win vs highers geared''

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    Why would you play a stone arrow when you can just play melee and do 3x the damage? Movement of archer is just inconsequential, only with ebonsong is it even manifested. Otherwise melee can always gap close and CC you.
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