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    Garden of Gods is killing EHM and WHM quests for new players

    With the introduction of garden of gods and the great new exalted infusion geared players don't need to do EHM and WHM quest anymore affecting greatly new players that usually depend from big raids and geared players to complete their quest. Solution? give exalted infusion in all quest EHM and WHM and problem solved

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    Totally agree with OP.

    There is very little reason for anyone who already awakened all hirams to glorious going in EHM/WHM.
    Number of raids doing daily EHM is almost zero now, WHM and others you might get lucky and be on when a raid goes there on monday, but not many opportunities for that either.

    There isn't really anything else going on either. When almost all higher gear players are just AFK in garden all day, not much other content gets done.

    Best solution would be to either allow lower level scrolls to be crafted up to glorious, so WHM+EHM would be usefull to all again, or add them directly to rewards as option.
    Same with infusions. We already can improve low level infusions upto radiant, no reason why same mechanic wouldn't work with radiant-exalted.

    As it stands now there are 2 separate games here:
    -Normal AA with trade and crating and farming and chatting and raids and pvp and ....
    -AFK garden
    When most of people are in garden, guess what happened to normal AA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harmonypirates View Post
    Solution? give exalted infusion in all quest EHM and WHM and problem solved
    Exalted infusions can only be used on T4 and T5 Hiram.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dramoth View Post
    Totally agree with OP.

    There is very little reason for anyone who already awakened all hirams to glorious going in EHM/WHM.
    Number of raids doing daily EHM is almost zero now, WHM and others you might get lucky and be on when a raid goes there on monday, but not many opportunities for that either.

    There isn't really anything else going on either. When almost all higher gear players are just AFK in garden all day, not much other content gets done.

    Best solution would be to either allow lower level scrolls to be crafted up to glorious, so WHM+EHM would be usefull to all again, or add them directly to rewards as option.
    Same with infusions. We already can improve low level infusions upto radiant, no reason why same mechanic wouldn't work with radiant-exalted.

    As it stands now there are 2 separate games here:
    -Normal AA with trade and crating and farming and chatting and raids and pvp and ....
    -AFK garden
    When most of people are in garden, guess what happened to normal AA?
    Exactly, for those who have glorious gear/weps there's not much reason for doing EHM/WHM. It would even be a bit stupid to use radiant infusions if you have those from Garden. You will spend less labor for synt your gear. As I posted in another topic because of the ranking system and harsh punishment on dieing Garden becomes an afk instance.
    Most aim at least for rank 6 and if you afk this it takes several hours. As soon some higher geared are done with this fairy quest they go around grieving in the garden or in the "normal" world which often makes it a lower geared raid impossible to do ehm because they put a war flag when its peace.

    In theory heros and higher geared ppl could help those raids but in reality this doesnt work like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaiye View Post
    Exalted infusions can only be used on T4 and T5 Hiram.
    So they could just add it as a third option, for those that need it instead of the current rewards.
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    try play without patron wil give you a new game feeling again.

    things get harder but see what you can do that does not need patron and since you can be afk in garden you get points and labor points makes it oke to do, don't forget you can get 2 labor enhancers a day.

    fun experience for me at least and i can say to gamigo bye bye money for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herzeleid View Post
    So they could just add it as a third option, for those that need it instead of the current rewards.
    Agreed.
    I'd like to see that all Hiram dailies/weeklies have the reward choice between
    • T3 infusions
    • T4 infusions (garden)
    • T1->T2 scrolls
    • T2->T3 scrolls
    • T3->T4 scrolls
    • T4->T5 scrolls
    (T1 and T2 infusions don't even make any sense anymore at this point)

    Of course they would need a good balance based on the difficulty of the quests.
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    It really boils down to server. On Jergant AAU our heros still do WHM/EHM raids because obviously many players in faction still need them.If your heroes aren't doing this then you should probably push to elect someone that's actually for the faction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmage View Post
    It really boils down to server. On Jergant AAU our heros still do WHM/EHM raids because obviously many players in faction still need them.If your heroes aren't doing this then you should probably push to elect someone that's actually for the faction.
    Reason to elect Heroes cause of WHM/EHM raids ? you are serious ?

    What about change the faulty garden mechanics instead.
    Allow preformed raids can enter the garden do the quest together and get the full reward everyone.

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